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Patrick J. Buchanan: Afghanistan South (Mexico)
humanevents.com ^ | 03/06/2009 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 03/06/2009 6:27:54 AM PST by kellynla

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1 posted on 03/06/2009 6:27:54 AM PST by kellynla
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Travis McGee

ping


2 posted on 03/06/2009 6:28:26 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

With Obama as our leader, the war for the southern border is already lost.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 6:31:52 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (FMCDH - BITS - BLOAT, and all that other stuff)
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To: kellynla

Being neighbors with a corrupt 3rd world country of 110,000,000 people realy sucks...


4 posted on 03/06/2009 6:35:52 AM PST by floridavoter2
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To: kellynla

Our new Homeland Security chief thinks its not a problemo yet


5 posted on 03/06/2009 6:38:45 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Have you girded your loins today??????)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Bush, McCain, Perry, Richardson, The Terminator and the rest of congress are to blame as well.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 6:41:32 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: kellynla
It is astonishing how much flak Pat Buchanan will receive as a result of this article. How little credit he will get when his prediction proves out.


7 posted on 03/06/2009 6:41:36 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: kellynla
A sad picture but true. Mexico is America greatest threat. It will not be long and America will actively assist the Mexican Government in taking down the cartel. We already are at war with the cartel here on our shores.
8 posted on 03/06/2009 6:42:47 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: I Buried My Guns

“With Obama as our leader, the war for the southern border is already lost.”

With our ex leader who was not a leader and at best a poor manager, the war for the southern border was already lost a few years back.


9 posted on 03/06/2009 6:43:19 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: nathanbedford

That crazy old uncle Pat in the attic isn’t so crazy anymore....


10 posted on 03/06/2009 6:49:26 AM PST by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
But now, look for the new tone to be "keeping out those poor Mexicans is inhuman and politically incorrect. If you support an actual border, you are a racist". Those who voice a concern about it will be marginalized or shunned.

Or, to quote the lady from New Orleans, "Shut up white boy!"

11 posted on 03/06/2009 7:00:03 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (FMCDH - BITS - BLOAT, and all that other stuff)
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To: kellynla

BTT!


12 posted on 03/06/2009 7:05:19 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: kellynla

This is one of those times Pat is pretty much right on.


13 posted on 03/06/2009 7:07:49 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: kellynla

It’s not the drugs that fuels criminal behavior- it’s the criminals. We ended prohibition- the criminals turned to gambling. We built Las Vegas and other gambling outlets- the criminals turned to drugs. If we legalize drugs, the criminals will turn to something else. Given the growing sex slavery and human trafficing business- I shudder to think what that will look like.


14 posted on 03/06/2009 7:18:48 AM PST by bobjam
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“There are two sure ways to end this war swiftly: Milton's way and Mao's way. Mao Zedong's communists killed users and suppliers alike, as social parasites. Milton Friedman's way is to decriminalize drugs and call off the war.”

He is absolutely right about that. He's also right in saying that Americans will never go for Mao's way. All we will see are half measures that are bound to be costly and doomed to fail. The “total war” necessary to win or at least cut drug use down substantially and therefore shrink the black market for drugs and the illegals drugs industry down to a fraction of what it is will never be fought here. You can't have that in a free society.

I don't know about Milton Friedman's way either though. Do we really want to legalize drugs like meth and heroin? I don't, but we can make the illegal drug trade much less of a problem simply by legalizing marijuana and only marijuana. That's the drug that most all drug users use. Americans consume more pot than all other illegal drugs combined. We have a huge black market for drugs, but mostly that black market is a black market for marijuana. Most of the participants, users and sellers, are involved with marijuana. If we regulate production and sales and take it out of the black market the black market for illegal drugs will shrink to something much more manageable. There will be far fewer participants in the black market for drugs, fewer users, fewer sellers, and a whole lot less money.

If you look at production estimates, estimates on the value of the market for drugs, for this country and the world over, marijuana is number one. No other illegal drug comes close in the number of users or the amount of money being generated in the market. And specifically when we talk about Mexican drug cartels, marijuana is their cash cow. ONDCP head John Walters said that marijuana is their “bread and butter, “the center of gravity” for Mexican drug cartels. The ONDCP estimated that about 62% of the money the Mexican cartels gross from drugs bound for the U.S. comes from marijuana. About 28% comes from cocaine, but they are only the middlemen for cocaine which must first be purchased and smuggled from South America before it can be smuggled into this country. Marijuana may very well provide these organizations with more than 62% of their net proceeds from drug sales to Americans.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022208dnintdrugs.3a98bb0.html

I think we do have some success with the war on drugs but mostly it's with drugs other than marijuana. We're able to keep drugs like cocaine, meth and heroin expensive and to varying degrees we're able to make them not so easy to come by. We're not even accomplishing that with marijuana. It's cheap on a per use basis and almost as easy to get as beer. We're failing miserably with marijuana. We're blowing a fortune trying in vain to keep up the ban. We're enriching organized crime to the tune of many billions of dollars a year. We're creating a situation where corruption is rampant, where millions of people have disrespect for law enforcement and the rule of law in general. We're doing a lot more harm than good in so many ways. We'd be much better off if we just regulated the production and sales of marijuana, tax it and use our money, efforts and resources fighting more pressing battles. Marijuana is just not such a threat that it is worth it to keep this incredibly costly battle going.

15 posted on 03/06/2009 7:21:46 AM PST by SmallGovRepub
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“It is astonishing how much flak Pat Buchanan will receive as a result of this article. How little credit he will get when his prediction proves out.”

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You got that right.

Sometimes it seems there’s a democrat party, actually running the Republican party.


16 posted on 03/06/2009 7:23:31 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Limbaugh 2012)
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To: I Buried My Guns

“keeping out those poor Mexicans is inhuman and politically incorrect. If you support an actual border, you are a racist”.”

I never considered myself a racist. I live amongst all kinds of folks of different skin tones here in Panama City, (R of P). It is the education level (a lot of times but not always. I know wonderful, smart, hard working folks who have not been through college) plus our common philosophy with whom I affiliate and not color...with the exceptions of Muslims. But then, Muslims and I do not have a common philosophy. If that is the case, I am then the biggest racist in the world. Good! I will wear that badge with honor.


17 posted on 03/06/2009 7:29:02 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: nathanbedford
Indeed.

PJB has been Cicero on the topics of Illegals and Demographics yet he his hated. Sometimes you have to acknowledge when people are correct and try to fix the problem.

The fact that the R's and D's haven't, implies they like the status quo.

18 posted on 03/06/2009 7:31:47 AM PST by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: I Buried My Guns

P.S.

To hell with the Mexicans.


19 posted on 03/06/2009 7:31:49 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SmallGovRepub
” but we can make the illegal drug trade much less of a problem simply by legalizing marijuana and only marijuana.”

I don't know about where you live but in CA we already have legal "medical" marijuana.

20 posted on 03/06/2009 7:34:19 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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