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To: samtheman
What-you-said bump.

In addition, Steele displayed his ignorance with the "overkill" remark. In fact, assault weapons represent "underkill" in a lot of cases. Even full-sized battle rifles sometimes don't get it done, as in the case of the Air Force enlisted man 50-some years ago who, bored to tears at his Alaskan outpost, decided to go bag himself a polar bear and drew an M-1 and several clips of mil-spec ball ammo.

He found the bear, and the search party found his rifle. In two pieces. They never found him, just a mess of pink snow and some empty clips.

People on this thread will correct me, but for polar bear, he probably needed something at least as stout as .338 Win. Mag., and preferably even more gun than that, maybe in the range of .375 H&H.

13 posted on 03/05/2009 4:09:50 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
People on this thread will correct me, but for polar bear, he probably needed something at least as stout as .338 Win. Mag.,

For polar bears of "Alaskan Brown Bears" (Kodiak), the preferred weapon is belt-fed.

Actually, he probably would have been OK if he had soft-point ammo.

There's an outfitter in Russia in the neighborhood of the Kamchatka penninsula who advertises bear hunts, where the object of the hunt is the twin brother of the Kodiak bears, and he specifies the .30-'06 as the minimum cartridge.

18 posted on 03/05/2009 4:34:09 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Air Force enlisted man 50-some years ago who, bored to tears at his Alaskan outpost, decided to go bag himself a polar bear and drew an M-1 and several clips of mil-spec ball ammo. He found the bear, and the search party found his rifle. In two pieces. They never found him, just a mess of pink snow and some empty clips. People on this thread will correct me, but for polar bear, he probably needed something at least as stout as .338 Win. Mag., and preferably even more gun than that, maybe in the range of .375 H&H. My dad successfully hunted many a Grizzly Bear and moose with his Model 70 chambered in 30-06, the same round the M-1 uses. ANd I'm pretty sure he was using surplus ammo as that's the only 30-06 ammo I ever saw around our house. I still have the rifle and 1/2 crate of ammo that he left me. Maybe the enlisted guy in your story was a bad shot, or, maybe the bear, or it's friend, successfully hunted him. That's one of the real dangers of big game, they see you as dinner thus why most big gamers will not hunt alone.
19 posted on 03/05/2009 4:45:24 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: lentulusgracchus

A friend was in the same position about that long ago and all the remote AF station had was M-1 Carbines.

Practically usless for anything larger than a woodchuck.


28 posted on 03/05/2009 5:09:41 AM PST by CPOSharky (Zero: I don't care about the country as long as I'm in charge. Forever.)
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