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MPs' fury as U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy gets honorary knighthood for Northern Ireland role
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 4th March 2009 | Ian Drury

Posted on 03/04/2009 4:03:45 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick

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To: PotatoHeadMick
U. S. Constitution; Article I; Section 9; Clause 8

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

U. S. Constitution; Article I; Section 10; Clause 1

No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.

Kennedy can not receive a title of nobility. It is unconstitutional. See above.

21 posted on 03/04/2009 4:31:59 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: TheConservativeParty
Heard about this travesty on the noon news today. Nearly lost my lunch. A Knight? Really. What the hell for?

Once a king, always a king, but once a knight's enough.

22 posted on 03/04/2009 4:33:21 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: He Rides A White Horse

> I’ll never understand the American (some) attitude regarding the Kennedys as being some kind of royalty. It’s really quite sickening. Camelot indeed. Everytime I hear that term, I feel like I’m going to vomit.<

I’m in the same boat. I dont remember King Arthur (Kennedy) shagging every chick that he came into contact with.


23 posted on 03/04/2009 4:35:28 PM PST by max americana
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To: PotatoHeadMick
"MPs' fury as U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy gets honorary knighthood for Northern Ireland role"

Probably the second thing I learned from my Irish relatives is that Northern Ireland isn't Ireland. It is England.

24 posted on 03/04/2009 4:35:51 PM PST by OldEagle
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To: PotatoHeadMick

They don’t mind him being a murdering pantload of steaming Socialist crap... it’s that other thing.


25 posted on 03/04/2009 4:41:04 PM PST by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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26 posted on 03/04/2009 4:44:17 PM PST by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
And here I was all pissed off and indignant at the way Obama had treated the PM this week.

Screw Gordon Brown. Dig up Arafat's corpse and knight his ass, too, you stupid Limey.

27 posted on 03/04/2009 4:46:42 PM PST by Gurn (Remember Mountain Meadows.)
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To: max americana
Let's not forget the Bay of Pigs. Dedicated Cubans who wanted to take back the country from Castro. What happens?

They get dropped off on a beach, and the air support promised never came. I really feel sorry for those folks when I think about it.

28 posted on 03/04/2009 4:50:19 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Myrddin

Thanks...I forgot about that


29 posted on 03/04/2009 4:53:43 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

The photo of Mary Jo in the article was a nice touch and a not-so-subtle indication of the editor’s feelings on the matter.


30 posted on 03/04/2009 5:12:56 PM PST by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

I suspect the real reason The Fat Little Rich Kid is being honored is because his purchase of scotch over the years has helped the United Kingodm’s balance of trade immeasurably over the years. The “Ireland” thing is mere cover. Cheers!


31 posted on 03/04/2009 5:24:54 PM PST by Robwin
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Are we to infer something about nature of the thrice proclaimed relationship between the two countries by this?


32 posted on 03/04/2009 5:40:04 PM PST by LexRex1776
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To: OldEagle
Whereas Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom or Great Britain if you wish, it is not in England.The four countries, England Ireland, Scotland and Wales form the UK. Great Britain. And as far as Kennedy getting a knighthood, we would of prefferred he got the same as his bro's.
33 posted on 03/04/2009 5:40:07 PM PST by rumrat (There is no gravity, the Earth "Sucks")
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To: Myrddin

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34 posted on 03/04/2009 5:45:26 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Myrddin
Kennedy can not receive a title of nobility. It is unconstitutional. See above.

A Knighthood isn't actually a title of nobility. That refers to titles of the level of Baron or above.

But still, you are correct that an American can not receive an actual Knighthood. What he can receive is an honourary Knighthood. He would not be Sir Edward (holder of the title), but can hold the honour.

Quite a few Americans have received Honourary Knighthoods over the years - President Reagan and President George H.W. Bush are both Knights Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath, for example. So were General McArthur, General Patton and Admiral Nimitz. General Norman Schwarzkopf and General Colin Powell are Knights Commander of the Bath. General Wesley Clark is a Knight of the British Empire.

35 posted on 03/04/2009 6:03:57 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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Apparently a "knighted" American signs the letters "KBE" after his name. That standards of Knight of the British Empire. I believe the "ceremony" occurred in the Senate chamber (or a joint meeting of House/Senate). If there was an objection, it could have been raised right there.
36 posted on 03/04/2009 6:21:18 PM PST by Myrddin
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A American who holds a Honourary Knighthood is entitled to use the post-nominal letters after their name, but post-nominals do not constitute a title (I’m a Member of the Order of Australia myself and can stick AM after my name, but I don’t hold any title).

What letters they can use depends on the Honour granted - Kennedy is receiving the KBE (Knight Commander of the British Empire), but it’s by no means the only possibility - and indeed is the lowest form of Knighthood (with the exception of Knight Bachelor which could not be awarded in any meaningful way to an American because it requires the person to use the title of Sir). Presidents Reagan and G.H.W. Bush were/are GCBs - Knights Grand Cross of The Most Honourable Order of the Bath, while Generals Powell and Schwarzkopf are KCBs - Knights Commander of The Most Honourable Order of the Bath.


37 posted on 03/04/2009 6:29:53 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Myrddin

Oh - and look on the bright side. If he moved to England and became a British citizen, he’d be able to call himself Sir Edward... maybe the idea will appeal to him and you’ll get rid of him.


38 posted on 03/04/2009 7:06:42 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Please do not consider sending your trash to the UK, we have enough. Most of the rubbish from Europe has landed on our doorstep. We do find it funny that the average Jo in the street’s of America seems to have a very off the mark perception of the English.We are known to most over there as stiff upper lip stick in the mud’s, with OH GOSH and GAW BLIMEY. In reality the rest of Europe sees us as the most violent caucasian population in the west,with gun crime in our cities and stabbings on a par with Harlem.
So keep your IRA sympathiser N.Ireland took three years of my youth, and if most of us had our way over here we would give him his Last KNIGHT on earth hood.


39 posted on 03/05/2009 4:06:15 AM PST by rumrat (There is no gravity, the Earth "Sucks")
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