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Marines sack 4 over deadly California plane crash
CNN ^ | 3 March 03

Posted on 03/03/2009 6:17:52 PM PST by PurpleMan

The Marine Corps has sacked four top officers of a California-based fighter squadron over the December crash of a fighter jet that slammed into a San Diego neighborhood, the service announced Tuesday....

"The end result was that the squadron elected to fly an aircraft that had a degraded fuel system on the left side of the aircraft," Rupp said. "This is a critical point, and this was collectively questionable judgment on the part of the squadron's maintenance department."

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"elected to fly" "degraded fuel system" "a critical point" "collectively questionable judgment"

Looks criminal to me, especially in light of 4 innocent people being killed.

1 posted on 03/03/2009 6:17:52 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Why didn’t the pilot just ditch the plane in the water when he had the chance?


2 posted on 03/03/2009 6:19:21 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: txnativegop

Or better yet why didn’t he land it at the airport by the water instead of flying it over peoples homes.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 6:22:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: txnativegop

When did he have the chance?

It’s about 10 miles to the sea.


4 posted on 03/03/2009 6:23:38 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: driftdiver

I did not realize there was an airport that close to the coast. Why did he try to save the plane? It’s just a plane, and usually can be replaced (of course under Obama, that may not be the case).


5 posted on 03/03/2009 6:24:06 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: PurpleMan

I’d like to hear the aircraft voice recording of this event.

Where are they?


6 posted on 03/03/2009 6:24:21 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: PurpleMan

The news reports I heard made it appear he was flying over the ocean. My fault for trusting a news report.


7 posted on 03/03/2009 6:25:07 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: PurpleMan

According to one story I read today he was over the water and chose to fly it inland.


8 posted on 03/03/2009 6:28:39 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: txnativegop

“Why did he try to save the plane? It’s just a plane, and usually can be replaced (of course under Obama, that may not be the case).”

Because pilots usually won’t admit they can’t control the situation until its the last moment. I’m sure he thought he could make it. It was the people on the ground that should have told him to land it or bail out.

Still he was the pilot and its his responsibility in the end.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 6:30:44 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dragnet2

It was a military aircraft and they don’t have to share any recordings with the public. IIRC, he was in contact with the tower at his base, not an FAA facility.


10 posted on 03/03/2009 6:38:18 PM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: txnativegop

Most likely he was ordered to return to Miramar and not to ditch.


11 posted on 03/03/2009 6:45:17 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: PurpleMan

Miramar is closer to three miles from the coast. The area he hit was not densly populated as the MSM tries to imply.


12 posted on 03/03/2009 6:56:34 PM PST by pfflier
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To: PurpleMan

I heard some of the recording today.
The ATC and the pilot were calm and professional.
The pilot was offered North Island on Coronado Island (down past the Del Coronado Hotel )
or Miramar , inland.
The pilot said he would consult with those on the ground before making a decision.


13 posted on 03/03/2009 6:58:41 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: PurpleMan
146 times.

146 times?

146 TIMES?!

14 posted on 03/03/2009 7:02:25 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: txnativegop

You don’t bail out of an aircraft that’s still flyable. If he was closer to North Island, that would have been a better choice. North Island’s runway is along the beach and the approach is over the beach. Miramar isn’t far from the shore, but if you have an emergency (one engine out in a two-engine plane counts as an emergency) you land at the nearest field that has enough runway.

My guess (just that) is that the maintenance officers wanted it back at the squadron to work on, never thinking that the other engine would fail.


15 posted on 03/03/2009 7:27:29 PM PST by pelicandriver
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146 TIMES?!

?

16 posted on 03/03/2009 7:31:33 PM PST by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: pelicandriver

4 lives gone, 4 Officers’ careers destroyed (they will probably be charged with an appropriate federal crime no doubt).


17 posted on 03/03/2009 7:32:52 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Dan Middleton

146 times and insufficient fuel? Is that the way this is coming out?


18 posted on 03/03/2009 7:34:16 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: SIDENET
Read the article.

"The F/A-18 Hornet crashed after 'a succession of emergencies' that began with oil-pressure problems in its right engine during a flight off the Southern California coast, said Marine Col. John Rupp. That left the jet relying on its other engine, which previously had been giving mechanics electronic indications of a problem with its fuel-flow system, Rupp said. Maintenance rules don't require immediate repairs for the problem, he said, but the squadron flew the jet 146 times before it eventually crashed because its left engine was starved for fuel."

19 posted on 03/03/2009 7:34:43 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: Dan Middleton
Oops. I actually did read the article and looked for the number 146.

Long day at work, I guess.

20 posted on 03/03/2009 7:37:03 PM PST by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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