Posted on 03/03/2009 3:30:39 PM PST by bimboeruption
On Feb. 25, I wrote an article for Examiner.com titled “To obey or not to obey government". In other words, I asked the question whether Civil Disobedience would be proper under certain circumstances.
In the article, I gave a few reasons that people, especially Christians might defy a government law, regulation or directive. In all of those cases, I noted that Acts 5:29 tells us that we should obey God’s law and not man’s law. Abortion was one of the things that I mentioned that would qualify to allow us to be justifiably civilly disobedient.
Since that time, Obama has said that he is considering repealing the Bush administrations “Abortion Conscience Clause”. That particular piece of work gives legal protection to those doctors, nurses (in Federally funded institutions) and other practitioners from performing abortions, referring to abortion clinics, and in plain words doing things contrary to their religious beliefs and/or their conscience.
According to CNSNews, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who is also an OB/GYN, said that many medical practitioners, including himself, will go to prison before agreeing to engage in medical practices they morally oppose, such as abortion.
Senator Coburn has it correct. Civil Disobedience is certainly called for in his case should Obama appeal the Abortion 'Conscience Clause'. However, Senator Coburn understands that he and any of his fellow practitioners may be placed in jail for their stand against the government.
Two things are at play here. First the Socialist tactics of the Obama administration and secondly the hideous social manipulation that I call "Social Engineering". That would be the government telling us that they know best and that we have no conscience when it comes to stupid laws or regulations that they make. Or worse yet, they tell you that they are taking away your rights because of someone else's rights. So who's right? Of course, Senator Coburn is right!
I would love to see Obama try and force Coburn and other truly Christian doctors to murder unborn children.
That would be the start of a REAL revolution.
I hope Republican Senators defy Obama on a lot more stuff too.
God Bless Senator Coburn, we must stand with individuals of such courage. Win or lose, we must not give up our God given rights to this little dictator, Obama.
The shot across the bow, the start of Marxist/Communist persecution of Christian believers
Give us the courage to stand strong in this spiritual battle, for as we defend the most innocent of Your creation, You will defend us. Expose the lies and deceit of those who must force others to destroy life. Bless Senator Coburn and may he be a powerful example of Your courage. Help us to take back this nation for Your glory. In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
The right to refuse to perform abortions for religious reasons is guaranteed by the First Amendment.
End of discussion.
Liberals believe civil (and un-civil) disobedience is only for them. Conservatives must always obey the law.
If President Obama, as he executes the office of president, should actually becomes so draconian as to force physicians like Dr/Senator Coburn to violate their beliefs. Then “civil disobedience” is not sufficient. Look below for the answer American forefathers concluded:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, DERIVING their JUST powers from the CONSENT of the GOVERNED. That whenever ANY form of government becomes DESTRUCTIVE to these ends, it is the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to ALTER or to ABOLISH it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their SAFETY and happiness.”
President Obama needs to slow down and think about second and third order effects of what he is purported to be pushing on abortion. It is bad enough that he is going to use federal monies to support infanticide, but to force/coerce physicians to perform abortions is just beyond all semblance of rational thought. One would think the president wants to start a civil war of some form.
If he does this, he has stepped over the line.
End of discussion.
If libs could pervert the words of the Constitution to "legalize" abortion, don't you think they'd do the same thing to eliminate the conscience clause?
So who's got the nerve to tell the anointed one to slow down and think? And would he actually listen?
The Constitution and all it's amendments means whatever liberals want it to mean when they are in charge and they are in charge now. It will take a revolution to change that and I'm not talking about a political revolution.
Senator Coburn is truly a courageous man. Got your six, Senator. Anytime, anywhere. This is a man we can follow.
Maranatha!
>> The right to refuse to perform abortions for religious reasons is guaranteed by the First Amendment.
Who needs a reason not to perform abortion? I don’t think Liberals understand that Pro-Lifers see the prenatal being as simply a child.
I expect the vast majority of Pro-Life health care workers to either transfer or leave the vocation. The void will be filled with people who are not only willing to perform abortions, but also support expansive forms of euthanasia.
If libs could pervert the words of the Constitution to "legalize" abortion, don't you think they'd do the same thing to eliminate the conscience clause?
The "conscience clause" should never have existed in the first place. It is as meaningless as a "freedom to practice Judaism in the U.S." clause as that right is already guaranteed by the First Amendment as it is actually harmful because it implies that Freedom of Religion is not already guaranteed by the First Amendment.
The libs can eliminate the "conscience clause" today and, tomorrow morning, the First Amendment will still be there.
Permitting an action by a citizen that is not guaranteed as a right by the Constitution and claiming it is a Constitutional right is easy. Only verbal B.S. is needed.
Forcing a citizen to do something that violates their Constitutional rights is a totally different animal. In such a case, mere verbal B.S. by the libs won't cut it. They need to come armed for bear.
I'll never forget seeing him debate Russert on Meet the Press. Russert tried to make the Senator look like a whacko.
Coburn didn't blink. He stared at Russert like a hound stares at its prey.
As I wrote in Post 15:
Permitting an action by a citizen that is not guaranteed as a right by the Constitution and claiming it is a Constitutional right is easy. Only verbal B.S. is needed.
Forcing a citizen to do something that violates their Constitutional rights is a totally different animal. In such a case, mere verbal B.S. by the libs won't cut it. They need to come armed for bear.
The libs don't have the stomach or the firepower to accomplish that.
Do you think there are enough bears to stop them?
Is he really prepared to force Catholic hospitals to shut down over this issue? I don't know the answer to that--maybe he thinks most Catholic bishops are such fervent Democrats that they are only bluffing.
Another group of people at risk are those who work in pharmacies--it enrages the feminists that some don't believe in birth control or "morning after" pills. They don't like the idea that a woman may not find such items available at the first pharmacy she visits, so all must provide them. That could force some people out of business.
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