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To: itsahoot
Do you have children in public school? Homosexuals have invaded the Public schools where they teach values clarification classes.

Which is why I, as a libertarian, do not support the public education monopoly. If you hadn't voted for so much government power over the last 70 years my children would be free to be raised by me, their conservative minded parent and not by a nanny state bureaucratic public school system. How can you argue for such a system and then against the use of the system by those that you supported implementing the system? It reminds me of all the crazy leftists screaming that GWB's administration abused its power, and their response is to call for more government power.

Ever work in a school where the administration has been openly gay?

Ever hear of NAMBLA...

I can imagine that further effort in getting you to see the destructive nature of Libertarianism is useless, so I give up.

More silly straw men. You talk about NAMBLA and public schools and then imply that they are libertarian organizations. Yeah, right. That, and other such groups, exist entirely to use government to further their schemes. Libertarians seek to disable government from doing any such things, so that parents can once again make decisions about their children. It is strange but that used to be a conservative principle, back in the days of your youth when the society you grew up in was still moral. Funny that.

This has worked so well with immoral men at the heads of major banks and corporations, has it not? Until they grab the money and run anyway.

Oh, so you don't support free markets. You would rather continue with the state managed ones we have now, and by the way which the above "immoral men" operated under. That is what always makes me laugh. The Left loves to berate the "free market" for any failure or abuse that comes along, and yet there hasn't been any actual free market in this nation for years. But, regardless, just how can you call yourself a conservative and call for state run markets, otherwise called socialism? Has so-called "conservatism" fallen so far that laissez faire is now even despised? And people wonder why the GOP and other "conservative" groups find it hard to be successful.

You picked a bad example considering what the Supreme Court did to that state law. I still maintain the unalterable position that Libertarianism and its sister philosophy of diversity, and tolerance always lead to a perverse society.

Maintain it all you want, but you are wrong. The current immoral and perverse society came about all under Republicrats. First you say that the "free market" that isn't free but instead run by non-libertarians is proof that free market economics are a bad idea. And now you say that society under statist morality laws is proof of the evils of libertarianism. Every time the statist philosophies fail its opponents get blamed. Very typical.

And, btw, there is nothing libertarian about tolerance. In a libertarian society I would be free to be as intolerant as I like, because the government would have no power to stop me. In a libertarian society my Church can preach against the sin of Sodom without fear of repression. In a libertarian society my money stays in my pocket and doesn't fund overseas abortions. In a libertarian society my children don't get indoctrinated by public schools run by militant homosexuals and perverts. All of those evils are the fault of people like yourself, who three off the libertarian ideals of the Constitution and adopted statism. Hasn't worked out so well thus far, if you ask me.

49 posted on 03/04/2009 9:44:04 AM PST by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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To: cothrige
If you hadn't voted for so much government power over the last 70 years my children would be free to be raised by me, their conservative minded parent and not by a nanny state bureaucratic public school system.

I have never voted for a liberal in my life, unless you count GW, and I do. I encourage all my friends to home school. You know nothing about me me cause you don't listen.

If Homosexuality, Pot, Open borders are so important to you, then do us both a favor, and let it go.

You have way to much time on your hands.

50 posted on 03/04/2009 10:01:40 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama does it by consent.)
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To: cothrige

The libertarian live and let live philosophy is nothing more than a wimping out self serving and selfish approach to life.

Think hard now about just what leadership is and about the phrase “lead by example” THEN you will see the error of your ways... The Republican party can not lead in all directions at one time because it will go nowhere...

Take McCain as an example: he failed -the “maverick: (rebel without a cause) failed because he did not lead -he stood for nothing other than a vote against Obamoron the one...


61 posted on 03/04/2009 5:25:45 PM PST by DBeers ( †)
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