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Nick Schuyler identified as RESCUED boater
Bay News 9 ^ | 3/2/09 | baynews9

Posted on 03/02/2009 12:06:36 PM PST by Reagan69

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To: subterfuge

That’s right! Always stay with the boat. I had that drummed into my head as a kid.

This is so insane. 35 miles out! How are you going to swim that with 14 foot waves?

And why didn’t they head back to shore earlier? The heavier those seas got, the longer it was going to take that small boat to get back —especially if they were traveling against the wind.


41 posted on 03/02/2009 1:09:29 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: ColdWater

I might enjoy that in a sail boat! As long as I’m not at the helm...LOL! In a cruiser trying to get back in is a pain in the wazoo!


42 posted on 03/02/2009 1:10:03 PM PST by hope (in mourning)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Water temp high 60’s.

I am surprised anyone could survive due to hypothermia.
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They can’t. Unless they had a way to get out of the water, there is no chance they survived.


43 posted on 03/02/2009 1:12:18 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: river rat

No shiite!...And the forecast is the most important line of defense...I wouldn’t go out in a man made lake without it...Looks like they had no way to communicate during MOB...Sheez! Red sky at night...sailors delight..Red sky in the morning, sailors warning!!!


44 posted on 03/02/2009 1:14:15 PM PST by hope (in mourning)
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To: Reagan69

As amazing as Schuyler’s story is, it’s not a surprise to former Bulls defensive tackle Richard Clebert, who was his teammate in the spring and preseason of 2006. Clebert said he had stayed in touch with Schuyler, who worked as a trainer at L.A. Fitness in Tampa.

“Not even a month ago, I went out there to work out with thim,” said Clebert, who still owns some of USF’s bench-press records. “I’m the strongest guy in the weight room, and I hurt my back working out with him. He completely destroyed me. When my wife told me he was one of the four guys lost out there, I told her ‘I guarantee if there’s anyone that makes it out there, it’s going to be Schuyler.’ He’s that tough.”

http://blogs.tampabay.com/usf/2009/03/clebert-on-schu.html


45 posted on 03/02/2009 1:15:05 PM PST by kcvl
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To: An American!

Manufacturer says yyou can get 13 people on a 21 foot boat? Are they nuts? It is a little open fisherman. If they were 50 miles out or even 5 miles out they are insane. It is a small boat and a single engine at that. It may not sink but if it turns over you are screwed.

4 men and no one thought to check the weather?
No beacon, radio, survival raft.

They could have bought a survival raft to hold 6 for $1500. These ball players throw that much around on a weekend partying. Sad.

http://www.gotheregps.com/detail.asp?product_id=RS1501

Here is one for under $1300

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|135|320549|81609|322481&id=81828


46 posted on 03/02/2009 1:15:48 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Texan Tory

35 miles out.


47 posted on 03/02/2009 1:16:59 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Mad-Margaret

And why didn’t they head back to shore earlier? The heavier those seas got, the longer it was going to take that small boat to get back —especially if they were traveling against the wind.
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It was a fast moving cold front. A small line of storms followed immediately by cold, very gusty winds. They should have been easily able to see the front as it approached and unless they had boat trouble or ran out of gas, they could have outrun it unless the boat was underpowered. When they saw the sky get dark to the NW, they should have listened to the weather on their boat radio, if they had one, and if they didn’t they should never have left shore. Clearly a case of irresponsible boating. No excuses whatsoever that this had to happen.


48 posted on 03/02/2009 1:18:08 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Paladin2

Boston Whaler... but even a 21 footer would be real rough way offshore.


49 posted on 03/02/2009 1:18:32 PM PST by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: Mad-Margaret; subterfuge

Hypothermia causes people to take their clothes off in snow because they are hallucinating. They think they are hot.

They may have imagined they were close to shore.


50 posted on 03/02/2009 1:19:31 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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I wonder why they didn’t come in when it started to get rough.

Many times, it is the "coming in" that does you in. Boats handle following seas much differently than opposing.

There is simply no way to navigate yourself thru those seas in that boat safely. The best way to captain yourself thru it is to not go at all.

51 posted on 03/02/2009 1:20:34 PM PST by Palmetto
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To: erman

Will Bleakley is/was a star football player for the high school team in our town before he went to USF. Prayers for him and his family.


52 posted on 03/02/2009 1:23:13 PM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: Paladin2
"21 ft seems a little small unless it is filled with foam and floats like a cork."

That would be a "Boston Whaler".... can't sink em... :)

53 posted on 03/02/2009 1:24:58 PM PST by PEACE ENFORCER (One Needs to Have the Capability of Using Deadly Force at Any Moment.....:))
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To: Palmetto
The best way to captain yourself thru it is to not go at all.

Aviation has the same guiding principle: 'It's better to be down here and wishing you were up there than it is to be up there and wishing you were down here'.

54 posted on 03/02/2009 1:25:05 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Hypothermia causes people to take their clothes off in snow because they are hallucinating.

Very similar thought crossed my mind earlier. The other men may have removed their life vests while hypothermic and confused.

55 posted on 03/02/2009 1:26:36 PM PST by NautiNurse (Blagojevich: a mediocre megalomaniac)
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To: hope

Lake Erie is the one that scares me the most. It’s so shallow and it can whip up to a fury in a very short time. More than once I have chickened out and just stayed another day at Put In Bay. Call me gutless, but gutless and ALIVE.


56 posted on 03/02/2009 1:28:02 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: Paladin2

Can you imagine the weight in that little tiny boat? Not only that, but the kind of body mass that foot ball players have does not float well. They probably couldn’t even tread water very easily. I wonder if they had life jackets.


57 posted on 03/02/2009 1:28:04 PM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER
That would be a "Boston Whaler".... can't sink em... :)

True. You could blow one up with a 20 lb. satchel charge and the pieces would float. Still wouldn't want to be out in one in conditions like that.

58 posted on 03/02/2009 1:28:25 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Eva

They said that they were wearing life jackets.


59 posted on 03/02/2009 1:29:10 PM PST by halo66
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To: halo66

I would also worry about sharks...


60 posted on 03/02/2009 1:30:06 PM PST by halo66
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