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U.S. government condemns "waterboarding" as torture
Yahoo News ^ | March 2, 2009 | Randall Mikkelsen

Posted on 03/02/2009 8:46:06 AM PST by SolidWood

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To: EQAndyBuzz

My comment was to highlight the doublestandard at play. It is not torture and the enemy will continue to engage in this activity and far worse.


21 posted on 03/02/2009 8:52:31 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: SolidWood

Before this is all over the Obama Administration will make Jimmy Carter look good.
That is if any of us are left to even notice..


22 posted on 03/02/2009 8:53:01 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: SolidWood

What the hell—it works—do it!


23 posted on 03/02/2009 8:54:47 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: SolidWood

Let’s see, making someone uncomfortable or preventing the death of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people?

Boy that’s a tough one. /s

The boy wonder does it again...


24 posted on 03/02/2009 8:54:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: SolidWood; All

25 posted on 03/02/2009 8:55:47 AM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SolidWood

As of a few moments ago, DOW down 29.09% since Obama’s election, and 17.58% since his inauguration.

Change I can believe in...


26 posted on 03/02/2009 8:56:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: DoughtyOne

For all his faults, GWB did a lot better job of keeping us safer than Obama is going to.


27 posted on 03/02/2009 8:56:49 AM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: SolidWood

if water boarding is torture, what about punsturing the cranium of a sensate being, sucking its brain out and delivering it through the birth canal? Will you as courageously condemn this practice as carried out by one George Tiller, and celebrated by your soon-to-be cabinet colleague, Kathleen Sibelius, Eric Holder, you coward?


28 posted on 03/02/2009 8:57:21 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: SolidWood

If waterboarding is torture, then why do we do it to our own soldiers as part of SERE training?


29 posted on 03/02/2009 8:57:52 AM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: musicman

Send in the mimes.


30 posted on 03/02/2009 8:59:06 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: SolidWood

“U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder ruled out the use of “waterboarding” as an interrogation technique for terrorism suspects on Monday, calling it a form of torture that the Obama administration could never condone”

But Beheading and carving a persons eyes out are ok with this Racist garbage!


31 posted on 03/02/2009 8:59:54 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: SolidWood
Terrorists - 1

Innocents - 0

32 posted on 03/02/2009 9:00:20 AM PST by Gabrial (Sticks and stones may break my bones...)
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To: CJ Wolf

33 posted on 03/02/2009 9:02:37 AM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SolidWood
Oh yes it is ok for members of the American Military to die because Holder would not want to harm friends of Obama.

"Waterboarding is torture ... My Justice Department will not justify it, will not rationalize it and will not condone it," Holder,,,

Now he has nationalized the DOJ and "HE" owns it

Pure BS, protect our citizens and military first, we'll sort out the details later!

34 posted on 03/02/2009 9:02:52 AM PST by TYVets
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To: EQAndyBuzz

uh, unless I am mistaken, I think the poster you were responding to as a troll was being “sarcastic” with his post.


35 posted on 03/02/2009 9:02:52 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: SolidWood

Yes. We should be kind, considerate and understanding....like our enemies. Just tie peoples hands behind their backs and courageously behead them!


36 posted on 03/02/2009 9:03:58 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: SolidWood
According to the US Code, I'd have to say waterboarding is torture:

(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;

(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—

(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;
(C) the threat of imminent death; or
(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and

I can feel the flames coming already. But honestly, it seems to fit the definition. "Enhanced interrogation techniques" is Orwell-speak. It seems to me if we want to torture terrorists, we should make it legal first. That is up to the Congress. That's the rule of law. Maybe we should torture terrorists. But if so, the thing to do is convince Americans of the fact, and pass a law in Congress. Anything other than that is, it seems to me, illegal. As in criminal. No matter how well-meaning.

37 posted on 03/02/2009 9:04:53 AM PST by Huck (Palin is perfect just where she is....in Alaska.)
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To: umgud

If we got hit again today, who would you blame it on? I’m curious, because we blamed a hit on September 11th, on the Clinton team. I guess the exact circumstances would play a key factor in the determination. I still think it’s an interesting question.

My take on the Bush administration as it relates to terrorism is this. Iraq and Afghanistan, good. The United States, mostly bad.

Nineteen people here on student visas (19 of which were Saudi Nationals) took down our WTC twin towers on 09/11. Today we have over 30 thousand Saudi National students on our soil. We have somewhere between 20 and 35 million illegal aliens here, many MS13 members are here. Many cartel related people are here. We don’t know who else is, but we have very good reason to think some Middle Eastern terrorists may.

So in some ways I appreciate what Bush did as it relates to terrorism. And in other ways I am shocked at how blind he was.

Oh well...


38 posted on 03/02/2009 9:05:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: SolidWood

Bring on “The Comfy Chair.”


39 posted on 03/02/2009 9:06:06 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: DoughtyOne

should have said... (15 of which were Saudi Nationals)


40 posted on 03/02/2009 9:06:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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