[r9etb]

VDH is a treasure, all right. It would be very refreshing to have a politician actually say in public that we're running afoul of our own expectations. The effects are pernicious -- problems like illegal immigration and loss of domestic manufacturing capabilities are part of the same package as the racial and cultural issues VDH mentions.

I can't get very sanctimonious about it, though -- I'm about as guilty of it as the next guy.

[thirst4truth]

I can't get very sanctimonious about it, though -- I'm about as guilty of it as the next guy.

Me too, I have been paying into SS since my first job at 17 years old. Almost 56 now so that is 38 years of work. I know that I could put in another 10 years or so to 67, not 62 like is available now, but I would be pissed if they changed it on me. Most of my friends are taking SS at 62, if you do the math, you get alot more then if you wait and get the higher amount at 67.

I have mostly been self employed so have had to make my own investments for retirement, now half of what I have saved for 30 years is wiped out.