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Obama may use 50-vote tactic on energy, healthcare
The Hill ^ | 3-1-09 | Jim Snyder

Posted on 03/01/2009 4:30:38 PM PST by cdchik123

President Obama’s budget director said the White House would consider using a Senate procedural tactic so that only 50 votes would be rquired to pass major healthcare and energy reforms.

Peter Orszag, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, said the administration would prefer not to use the budget reconciliation process to push through its package. But he added: "We have to keep everything on the table. We want to get these.... important things done this year." Orszag called healthcare in particular "the key to our fiscal future."

Orszag made the comments on ABC’s "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."

Because they can not be filibustered, budget reconciliations only require 50 votes to pass the Senate. Democrats hold strong majorities in Congress, but still come up short of the 60 votes necessary in the Senate to end debate, which makes it easier for Republicans to block legislation. House rules in comparison make it harder for the minority party to stop bills.

Still, using budget reconciliation to pass policy proposals is controversial, even among some Democrats who believe doing so strains Senate rules and tradition.

The Obama blueprint calls for major changes in both energy and healthcare policies that is likely to engender significant opposition from Republicans and business lobbies. The reforms are expect to win widespread support from Democrats and more left-leaning constituencies.

The budget plan calls for a cap on carbon emissions, for example, and projects $645 billion in revenues from an auction of pollution permits that a variety of business groups, including oil companies, large manufacturers and utilities, would have to purchase.

On healthcare, the plan calls for a $634 billion reserve fund to pay for a first step on healthcare reform.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 50vote; bho44; bhoomb; budgetreconciliation; cloture; communism; gangof14; gangofmccain; gangofnone; liberalism; marxism; nuclearoption; obama; orszag; senate; socialism; stalinism
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Just what is his definition of “bipartisanship”?

He wins and we accept defeat.

61 posted on 03/01/2009 8:24:56 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yup.

Another reason he needs to squander huge amounts right now - the can claim to ‘cut the deficit in half’ only if next years deficit is superhuge.


62 posted on 03/01/2009 8:29:32 PM PST by WOSG (tagline is now unemployed due to Obama economy)
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To: cdchik123
The budget plan calls for a cap on carbon emissions, for example, and projects $645 billion in revenues from an auction of pollution permits that a variety of business groups, including oil companies, large manufacturers and utilities, would have to purchase.

Wanna bet half the Obama voters cheer this and take pleasure in thinking they are sticking it to these companies, until down the road their utility bills triple? Our nation as a whole, has become stupid and uninformed.

63 posted on 03/01/2009 9:15:04 PM PST by Go Gordon
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To: cdchik123
So a simple majority is not required to pass bills anymore?

It's no longer necessary to get more than half of the votes and one half of the representatives are more important than the other half?

What kind of country are we living in now?

Surely not a democracy, by definition...

64 posted on 03/01/2009 9:22:45 PM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: cdchik123
Tryant. Get used to it.
65 posted on 03/01/2009 10:10:18 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: jedi150

When are the Shepple going to wake up and realize that a Coup has taken place
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I’ve been wide awake and screaming coup since he signed the first executive orders.


66 posted on 03/01/2009 10:11:09 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Lazamataz

There is zero chance that this man intends on leaving office. This is a bloodthirsty move right out of the gate. 2012 will be very bloody, literally.
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Yep, you nailed it. I will say it again, he is NEVER leaving that WH voluntarily. NEVER.


67 posted on 03/01/2009 10:12:32 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: patriotmediaa

Republican are in on this
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Many, not all. It’s up to the people now.


68 posted on 03/01/2009 10:16:58 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: mojitojoe; jedi150; Carling; R0CK3T

“So much for separation of powers.” “A coup [revolution] has taken place”.

From a booklet (”The Revolution Was”) written 71 years ago about the New Deal and FDR. I have been pushing this thread (and there was another one) since before the election. It is a long read, but goes fairly quick as almost EVERY word is coming true again.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929392/posts

Excerpt:

Until it was too late few understood one like Julius C. Smith, of the American Bar Association, saying: “Is there any labor leader, any businessman, any lawyer or any other citizen of America so blind that he cannot see that this country is drifting at an accelerated pace into administrative absolutism similar to that which prevailed in the governments of antiquity, the governments of the Middle Ages, and in the great totalitarian governments of today?

Make no mistake about it. Even as Mussolini and Hitler rose to absolute power under the forms of law... so may administrative absolutism be fastened upon this country within the Constitution and within the forms of law.” .........

....The other side in each case would represent Recovery and that was the side the New Deal constantly held up to view. Nearly everything it did was in the name of Recovery. ...What we shall see is that in every case the choice was one that could not fail:

(a) To ramify the authority and power of executive government its power, that is, to rule by decrees and rules and regulations of its own making;

(b) To strengthen its hold upon the economic life of the nation;

(c) To extend its power over the individual;

(d) To degrade the parliamentary principle;

(e) To impair the great American tradition of an independent, Constitutional judicial power;

(f) To weaken all other powers the power of private enterprise, the power of private finance, the power of state and local government;

(g) To exalt the leader principle.

..... Where was the New Deal going? The answer to that question is too obvious to be debated. Every choice it made, whether it was one that moved recovery or not, was a choice unerringly true to the essential design of totalitarian government, never of course called by that name either here or anywhere else....


69 posted on 03/01/2009 10:35:47 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: FreepShop1

Looks like one of hitlers followers.


70 posted on 03/01/2009 11:34:37 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Kenny

“How can they be so blind? How can they continue to support a dictator?”

I think part of this comes from the tendency to demonize the opposition. Dems, even moderate Dems, believe that liberalism is on the side of truth, justice and the American Way; conversely, conservatism is seen as evil, false and the UnAmerican Way. Therefore, Dems believe it is incumbent to get the party into a situation where it can call the shots for the long term. This is when, I believe, moderate Dems think they can best act for the sheeple and order society as it ought to be. They are the Dr. Frankenstein of politics, creating something that it will not be able to control. So they stand aside at the creation of this monster and bide their time for a chance at the controls.


71 posted on 03/02/2009 5:54:39 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: cdchik123

What’s this about a guy named Farrakhan being Obama’s REAL dad, and THAT’S why he keeps the birth certificate under SEAL? Can anyone here elaborate and give more details?


72 posted on 03/02/2009 6:13:05 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: cdchik123
Dictatorship so early? How very Marxist of him.


73 posted on 03/02/2009 6:28:55 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Forgiveness is easy on a full stomach, hungry, not so much.


74 posted on 03/02/2009 6:40:03 AM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Anita1

I can give you three reasons why anything close will go to zero.

Spectre
Snow
Collins.


75 posted on 03/02/2009 7:39:49 AM PST by DaiHuy (')
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