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To: Markos33

I’m in the northwest and in Oregon and Washington it wasn’t like that at all.

We envied the non-union competitors - their employees were loyal to their employer, not the union, and their men were happy. We, as a union employer, had to bribe our employees to do a decent job. The prize every year was a week long trip to Hawaii for 2. We also paid out a lot of bonuses based on performance. If we didn’t do that our hourly average (income per man per hour) sank because the employees had no incentive - as they saw it - other than their extremely comfortable living - to do a decent job.

From my perspective the unionization of employers will just raise prices but not quality. Just what we don’t need.


24 posted on 02/28/2009 7:53:29 PM PST by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: Aria
We envied the non-union competitors "their employees were loyal to their employer, not the union"

After very many years of most flavors of working on boats, including over 2 years of school developing my boat carpentry skills, I applied at Nordlund, who built very large yachts and "Superyachts". I'd been enamored with their boats for many years.

Besides the fact that I was offered less per hour than my son was making after 2 months on the job doing landscaping 20 miles and a toll closer to home, Union Rules dictated that should I ever cease my employment with Nordlund for any reason, I could not ever work for any other employer as a boat carpenter in Washington State.

I knew very well what a "Non Compete" contract was, having challenged one before, and the fact that a yacht builder I had been so proud of as "one of ours" as a local builder of really big art would defile themselves so as to consider imposing that on a tradesman reversed my respect for that builder 180 degrees.

The fact that the union, not the company decided when/if I was to get a raise was another deal killer.

25 posted on 02/28/2009 9:22:13 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Whoa, Bambi, Whoa. Back that thought into the barn and don't let it out till it's grown up.)
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