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To: SteamShovel
“Scientific theory is just that, theory. Facts in science can be trusted, because they represent an unbiased answer to a question.”

That is incorrect. Science overstates its theories as some sort of fact (see Global Warming and Evolution as good examples) instead of an educated guess that could very well be wrong, and history has shown that science has been wrong more than it has been right. I do not know how you can say that “Facts in science can be trusted because they represent an unbiased answer” when you then go on to admit that science is being taken over by politics. Actually, your statements show that you know very little about science history. Science has always been corrupted by politics and has never been unbiased or given solid objective answers.

“The problem with science as presented today is that politics has hijacked the process, forcing outcomes for cash grants and/or the political agenda of the chief scientist.”

You are making my case here.

“Do not confuse real science, which is simply the process of discovery through thought and experimentation, with the climate hoax going on today.”

LOL. So global warming is not “real science” but just a “hoax” and yet the whole damn science community and the most important and influential publicans and universities and other science organizations are backing it and not stepping forward to call it a hoax. You don't have a clue.

38 posted on 02/28/2009 8:43:07 AM PST by HwyChile
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To: HwyChile
Science overstates its theories as some sort of fact

You are missing my point.

The global warming movement is not science, it is political driven hysteria.

There is a difference between science and politics. The global warming movement has jumped the gun on science for politics and money.

I prefer to live in modern society that communications, medicine, transportation, and electricity have given us thanks to science. I do not want to give it up because of some crackpot scientists who worship the earth and some money driven corporations. But just because some science is bad does not mean all science is bad.

Yes, I have a clue. If you would take the time to think about it, you would see that we are on the same side of the argument. I am merely trying to point out that real science has had benefit to mankind, and that the politics of global warming is not science.

41 posted on 02/28/2009 10:10:15 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: HwyChile
“Facts in science can be trusted because they represent an unbiased answer” when you then go on to admit that science is being taken over by politics.

Youngs Modulus is a material property discovered by scientific research. It is a fact and is very useful to man. There is no politics involved in discussing or using this phenomenon.

42 posted on 02/28/2009 10:12:51 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: HwyChile
You don't have a clue.

Debate is usually best done with personal attacks.

You don't know me, you have no idea about my education, experience, or background.

I have not said anything derogatory about you.

43 posted on 02/28/2009 10:16:27 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: HwyChile
influential publicans and universities and other science organizations

The Universities like the research grants...helps buy fancy super computers....

45 posted on 02/28/2009 12:12:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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