Posted on 02/27/2009 5:39:58 PM PST by microgood
Try selling that to someone who isn’t young and naive. I’ve been on the wrong side of the bars far too many times and have never seen such bad behavior from any “former” cop. In fact I’m usually on the other side of these arguments giving the cop the benifit of a doubt. The idiot that behaved like that is done.
I wonder if his action would have been the same if it was a 240 pound Hells Angel lipping off to him.. ................... A little different I’m sure, he should have a night stick on his belt.
The are the more engineering type bikers.
Well, what do you write in the officers record? Unable to trick, deal, psych out a 15 year old girl?
Her arms are cross because that is a protective stance, a fear reaction.
Her hands come up because his hand comes through the doorway and is arching up at the same time he’s aiming to kick her knee, she was likely protecting her face/eyes.
You let anyone come at you with their hands aimed at your face and see if you don’t try to protect your eyes.
This happen to a child of mine, I go to prison for life.
I see the girl giving the cops some crap. A professional response to that might have been as forceful as firmly grabbing her by the arm and explaining that crap will not be tolerated, but most professional would have been to simply slam shut the door.
Assault 4 is barely a violation, something you get for throwing a non defensive punch in an argument. This looks like more than that to me.
Two big men, one 15 year old female child.
Don’t give me your long disserations.
Two big men, one 15 year old female child.
Find out more facts about the case FIRST. Until you deal with foul mouthed, Godless teenagers every day, please hold your comments.
In your opinion a foul mouth and being dissed by 15 year old girl deserves a beat down by two much larger adult males?
And people say I’m cracked.
I cannot believe some of the comments on this forum. So many people who NEVER work with teens or youth have so much expertise. We have masses of poorly trained children who do not know ANYTHING about God and the Bible who treat teachers and each other like animals every day. If you only knew what goes on in the schools you would understand this situation a LOT better.
She was treated a LOT nicer by both men than my now deceased WWII Navy Vet father would have done to me for what she probably said and did to them...a LOT nicer. If we don’t get back to a respect-for-authority society pretty soon, we are doomed.
Now one iota of apology for my point of view in the matter. Without background knowledge from my point of view on this incident, it is impossible for those who disagree to even begin to understand why some of these teens need to be taught some very hard lessons.
I think it is just a function of numbers. People are not machines. Enough people as cops, making enough arrests...things are going to go south every now and then.
If this was the officers only event, I’d be inclined for rehabilitation. It could well be a one time event, upon which he comes out a way better officer, and thus a benefit to all.
Short of the girl turning out to be a heavily armed midget ninja dude, I can't think of anything that would exculpate the LEO.
Can you think of any other circumstances that would?
Professionals should act like professionals if they want to be respected, not like gang enforcers.
“Colors” with Robert Duvall and Sean Penn? ...... Yes years ago. My favorite actor cop was Franz’s part on Hill Street Blues when he played Det. Bennedeto. He was so typical of the cops I knew growing up in Brooklyn in the 50’s and a few that served in the ARNG. We had a couple of NYPD type in our family at that time (50’s) they were uniform beat police and as far as I know they behaved. We had neighborhood cops that walked around the neighborhood. Things were a lot quieter then. BTW, they were tough on punks, they would slap you around if you got caught misbehaving, like getting caught stealing a car. They would yank your butt right out of the car and slam you down,
and with no Miranda rights read to you.
By and large the authority figures in our society suck.
Both Republican and Democrats are making young kids like this financial serfs. Debt slaves. Peons.
The schools are totally screwed up, low quality holding pens. Who’s responsible? The kids?
These kids are inheriting an American that is worse than the one their parents grew up in.
In general, I don’t blame kids, nor troops for the conditions done by their parents or so called leaders.
I'm not going to argue that point because it is correct. However, the blatant disrespect for authority that is seen across the nation in the public schools has simply got to stop. And, the lawyers who encourage it and the parents who condone it should both be severely punished. If it doesn't change, then the nation will fall and it will all be a moot point.
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