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The Coming Blue State Collapse
Edgelings/Pajamas Media ^ | February 26, 2009 | Rich Karlgaard

Posted on 02/26/2009 4:26:05 PM PST by giant sable

Here’s a quick and dirty guess: Upper-middle-class families in blue states–those President Obama calls “the rich”–will soon be paying 20% more a year in state and federal taxes. If you pay $100,000 off of a $300,000 income now, look for $120,000 in a couple of years.

Federal income taxes are going up, and deductions are going down.

That much we know. What we don’t know yet–but I would bet money on it–is if the 7.65% Social Security and Medicare tax ceiling will be lifted from $102,000 to $150,000 or so.

Taxes are headed up at the state and local level too. Residents in blue states like California and New York will be socked hardest.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bluestate; bluestates; edgelingscom; forbes; karlgaard; taxandspend
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To: No Truce With Kings

A little stressed tonight? You have no idea what I do for the conservative movement..do you?

No you don’t...so keep your stupid assumptions to yourself!

I do plenty and our family foundation gives hundreds of millions away to conservative groups fighting for free enterprise, our constitution, property rights and education in this country every year! I usually don’t like to talk about it....but you have acted like a snarky little jerk.

So...from now on....don’t assume.

BTW...are you going to any of the Tea Parties this weekend to do YOUR PART?

What do you do to help conservatism?


41 posted on 02/26/2009 7:43:59 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Viking2002
Leftists have become the Typhoid Mary of Western politics and culture.

IOW... 'Rats spread the plague.

42 posted on 02/26/2009 7:55:58 PM PST by uglybiker (AAAAAAH!!! I'm covered in BEES!)
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To: giant sable
Taxes are headed up at the state and local level too. Residents in blue states like California and New York will be socked hardest.

Actually, taxpayers in whatever state with the requisite income, will be hit equally.

Are there more of them in these states? Perhaps.

But it isn't exclusive to blue states.

43 posted on 02/26/2009 8:03:40 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: giant sable

Living in a really Blue State surrounded by many 7% types, I just don’t think they are paying attention. Wait till they see the new reduction in mortgage deductions and charity. My guess is the shit will hit the fan around January of 2010 when they visit their accountants and actually see the bill.


44 posted on 02/26/2009 8:23:53 PM PST by Dens Sales
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To: penelopesire

“I do plenty and our family foundation gives hundreds of millions away to conservative groups fighting for free enterprise, our constitution, property rights and education in this country every year! I usually don’t like to talk about it....but you have acted like a snarky little jerk.”

Doesn’t seem to track with your paeon of despair, but whatever. Your words don’t match your claims. You were whining. (Still are.)

Better a snarky jerk than a whiner.


45 posted on 02/26/2009 8:26:58 PM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: No Truce With Kings

You still didn’t answer my question. What do you do to help the conservative cause(other than jump down other conservatives throats online that you don’t even know)?

Are you taking part in the TEA PARTY’s today?


46 posted on 02/27/2009 5:02:08 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: giant sable

Problem is the blue states control the legislation going thru congress. they can insert provisions which protect their constituents. such as the financial sector, automakers, etc.


47 posted on 02/27/2009 5:37:28 AM PST by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: max americana
How many reprimands so far?

In my permanent personnel file? None. It's hard for them when my scholarship and my politics are perfectly aligned, and I make a point of making clear that politics are not allowed in my classrooms because the students aren't paying for my political opinions.

Phone calls from the dean and other powers that be--plenty. The biggest problem I see on my horizon is my admonition to the students that they should file grievances against other faculty for using the classroom as a tool of political indoctrination. The surreal events occur at conferences where people who don't know me assume that everyone in the room is a liberal. I assume you're intimately familiar with the phenomenon given your similar circumstances.

48 posted on 02/27/2009 6:21:02 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: penelopesire

“Are you taking part in the TEA PARTY’s today?”

Yup.

And you are still a whiner. My going to a tea party doesn’t change that.


49 posted on 02/27/2009 6:22:24 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Yep, taking water from the deep-end of the pool and dumping it in the shallow end does not make the water level rise.


50 posted on 02/27/2009 6:23:38 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: No Truce With Kings

You seem to believe that a stark ‘reminder’ of where Obama and the democrats plan to take this country is ‘whining’. I would rather deal with reality and if you don’t think that Obama is a marxist, then you will be of no use in this battle and it might be best if you just stay home.


51 posted on 02/27/2009 6:36:01 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

“I would rather deal with reality and if you don’t think that Obama is a marxist, then you will be of no use in this battle and it might be best if you just stay home.”

Man the “reality-based community” is metatastizing.

Don’t lecture me me aboui staying home. You are the one that posted a message stating that the struggle was hopeless, hoss — not me. Either you don’t believe it or you are wasting your time fighting it. Your credibility is bankrupt.

Simply posting rant about how hopeless everything is without offering solutions is whining. That’s what YOU did, not me.

Want some cheese with your whine?


52 posted on 02/27/2009 8:19:58 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: No Truce With Kings

“You are the one that posted a message stating that the struggle was hopeless, hoss — not me.”

NO.....A review of what I ACTUALLY wrote:

“You got to start thinking like Obama and the marxists think. See...the plan is to ruin the blue states..then ship the blue state liberal yuppies to prospering red states looking for work. Then the dems have a take over of red states too and all that is left back in the failed socialist blue states are dependent democrat looters living off of our taxdollars.

See how that works?

Decades of marxist control of America. They will also make it hard now for people to afford to send their children to private K-12 schools(because the gov is taxing them to death)...so they are all forced into liberal/marxist run school systems to be indoctrinated. They will close the homeschooling programs as well.

It is all coming to pass fasted than anyone realized.”

I DON’T SEE THE WORD ‘HOPELESS’ IN THERE! DO YOU?

Don’t post to me again..you jerk! I’m done. You are more than likely just a liberal poseur on this board trying to sow discord.


53 posted on 02/27/2009 8:27:35 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

“I’m done.”

Promises, promises.

We can only hope, cap’n gloom.


54 posted on 02/27/2009 10:47:53 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: FateAmenableToChange

> The surreal events occur at conferences where people who don’t know me assume that everyone in the room is a liberal. I assume you’re intimately familiar with the phenomenon given your similar circumstances.

Yes, I am. (unfortunately)


55 posted on 02/27/2009 1:42:30 PM PST by max americana
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