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Man (decorated Vet) stabbed by illegal immigrant sues city, police
KTAR ^ | 2/23/09 | staff

Posted on 02/23/2009 9:07:52 PM PST by pissant

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To: randomhero97
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January,2008 more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military. According to Mexicans their military has even become part of the problem. The US Border Patrol has complained to the Bush administration about Mexican military incursions to no avail.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says The liberal LA Times is now reporting that Mexico's drug wars are now north of the borders--but soto voce. Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC Alas, the Washington DC pictures have recently been taken down.

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status. Illegals themselves have become the targets of kidnappers Mexican style in Arizona where drug money from south of the border is often parked.

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

That said, the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts. DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens. The Center For Immigration Studies has provided a detailed account of the illegal alien gang problem


21 posted on 02/23/2009 10:27:59 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: HiJinx
On this forum many years ago I suggested this very kind of lawsuit.

The police take an oath to enforce the laws. It's malfeasance not to enforce those laws. Thus the first path for a lawsuit: willful negligence leading to injury.

As far as civil rights violations, it's a violation of group rights - the group being the citizenry - to have all of the applicable laws enforced against them while another group - illegal aliens - enjoys a situation where the laws are not enforced against them, as a matter of official policy.

This is an abrogation of the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

Thus you have a civil rights case.

Know what's great about "civil rights" cases?

The federal government is obliged to pay you for them. The jerks who got the sickening decision from Mariana Pfaelzer in the Prop 187 lawsuit collected a couple of million.

So it's a way the Left has funded itself for years.

Hopefully, the Right can learn to play the same game.

In the meantime I hope Jason wins big. Be even more fun to see Phil Gordon (may the dung of a thousand donkeys be upon him) have to hand over some big check.

22 posted on 02/23/2009 10:31:05 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! The looting begins in five minutes...)
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To: pissant
Anybody see a pattern here?


23 posted on 02/23/2009 10:41:43 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: HiJinx

i’ve seen precious few articles, always with the teary-eye spin, that mentions the many illegals that bought houses with little or no money down.

i rent. i can’t afford a house. even when i wasn’t laid off, i still would never had bought.

the job market in the valley could not sustain those prices levels it was ridiculous.

now we are all paying for being responsible citizens.


24 posted on 02/23/2009 10:56:54 PM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: pissant

...but DHS Janet says we don’t have a problem...


25 posted on 02/24/2009 4:31:21 AM PST by TADSLOS (Come and Take it!)
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To: pissant
US Immigration Law Enforcement by Local Agencies

Mentions the Illegal Immigration and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA) of 1996.

26 posted on 02/24/2009 4:35:04 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: HiJinx

I was just saying that to my husband last night!


27 posted on 02/24/2009 5:50:36 AM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“I hope he bankrupts their sorry butts!”

That being the City of Phoenix and the Phoenix Police
Department.

Brilliant.


28 posted on 02/24/2009 5:55:02 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: machogirl
the job market in the valley could not sustain those prices levels it was ridiculous.

Too true. And yet, my d-i-l is still selling shoes for $150 a pop in an upscale mall (San Tan Village area). Someone out there still has money to spend. Or (more likely) they still have credit cards that aren't maxed out yet!

Side note...the new Banner Hospital going up in Queen Creek should be completed this summer; but Banner doesn't plan to open it until next Spring according to a family member who is part of the construction crew.

29 posted on 02/24/2009 10:31:58 AM PST by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: pissant

“gross negligence in the enforcement of immigration laws”

I wish him well...but how many times have we heard that enforcement of our immigration laws is up to the FEDS, not the locals. I hope he has a case. Wish he could sue the FEDS for that AND failure to effectively secure the borders instead.


30 posted on 02/24/2009 12:05:33 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: machogirl

“i’ve seen precious few articles, always with the teary-eye spin, that mentions the many illegals that bought houses with little or no money down.”

Exactly...Have you heard ANY ONE in the media mention Bush’s 2002 “Ownership Society”? Remember, “5 million new homeowners!” Considering the “everything is Bush’s fault” thinking...surprising the media hasn’t made a huge stink about it. But the silence is deafening. That’s because they don’t want to focus on the illegal elephants in the room. Doing so would mean admitting the pandering mistake and they don’t want to admit anything...at least not while they are busy compounding it. They are determined that illegals will keep those mortgages, determined to create more jobs for illegals, services & benefits for illegals, etc. An illegal who is ‘established’ with a mortgage, auto loans, jobs, children in schools, extended families, etc. are an excuse for amnesty and open borders and reason against deportation. I believe that though they are obviously draining our economy, our economy will be used not only to promote amnesty, but when things get bad enough, the creation of the bipartisan/globalist’s North American Union.


31 posted on 02/24/2009 12:19:31 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: pissant

Good!


32 posted on 02/24/2009 5:37:09 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Kimberly GG; HiJinx

all of this is scary as heck. i have never seen anything like it.

start with bailout number 1, and then masses crawl out of the woodwork for theirs, while the responsible and hardworking will pay for it.


33 posted on 02/24/2009 6:35:53 PM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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