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Change is Coming
NA | NA | Pat Dollard

Posted on 02/22/2009 5:44:22 PM PST by dvan

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To: Airwinger
I refuse to join in with the Obama Derangement Syndome crowd: Obama is Hitler! Obama is abolishing elections! Obama is a muslim! We need Obama to take over to usher in the Apocolypse!

If I didn't know better, I'd think I was in mirror-dimension DU.

61 posted on 02/22/2009 7:08:12 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (PIE FIGHT!!!!!)
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To: Lancey Howard
"My recommendation is to learn as quickly as possible how to game the system. Grab every penny you can from government before the parasites gobble it all up."

Way ahead of you there. I've been behind enemy lines for years (lot of good it's done so far I must say). A close friend quit work (has a Masters) went on the nanny state rolls, named the children Dagny and Ayn. One of my children trashed a business degree for a teaching job. Spouse is retiring soon and the other children haven't climbed up the latter far enough to get severely hurt.

I think we have it covered.

All that said...it's probably going to be crazy out there when everyone else gets hurt...so there is no way this is not going to touch all of us in some way. When your neighbor is hurting...things ain't gonna be rosey for anybody.

62 posted on 02/22/2009 7:09:09 PM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Earthdweller

latter=ladder. Darn phonics.


63 posted on 02/22/2009 7:16:36 PM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: dvan
"We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?"

...to support the mcmansion housing debacle, which was one of several schemes for supporting globalist slavery against Americans. It's been pushed by constituents behind both political parties for decades, and it is no longer sustainable.

I'm happy about the crash of anti-American business conglomerates and politics and hope that it goes far enough to make way for new blood in business and politics.


64 posted on 02/22/2009 7:32:55 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: dvan

The antidote to all the fears this talk stirs is...PSALM 37!

Ran into it on a Freeper’s homepage and found God’s sanity return to me. Read it and breathe in the wisdom.


65 posted on 02/22/2009 7:34:07 PM PST by avenir
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To: ETL

He should read his history more carefully. W. Churchill was in the House of Commons, not the House of Lords.


66 posted on 02/22/2009 7:34:54 PM PST by dominic flandry
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To: dvan
The Illustrated Road To Serfdom (short cartoon describes Hussein's desires)
67 posted on 02/22/2009 7:38:44 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: mamelukesabre

On the up side Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito are there for the long term, still relatively young. If they start having accidents, look out. The left are the ones who will be replaced, undoubtedly by other lefties.
I’m not sure about the swing vote Kennedy, age health, wise.


68 posted on 02/22/2009 7:40:14 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: DTogo
"the combat-hardened American military will side with We The People, not self-serving politicians in Washington."

I believe you're right there

69 posted on 02/22/2009 7:45:00 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: dvan
And the people surely got what they voted for. (Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

I did, and you are. Hitler was not freely elected to anything. He was appointed Chancellor of Germany. It's shocking to me how many posters on this site make this same historical error.

Doesn't change the validity of the rest of your argument, but facts are facts.

70 posted on 02/22/2009 7:45:45 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: All

Here’s another academic analysis, reportedly from the same often published, lifelong historian. ...must be a really old man. [Wink]

AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES ANONYMOUS
http://justanobody-americonsanon.blogspot.com/2008/11/similiarities-in-history.html

AND the author’s follow-up..
On November 14, 2008, Political Pyro posted an article he found on the web. The author was tps and we titled the post, Change Is Coming. In response to our posting of the article, its author has sent us a clarification statement on the original post. Below it this clarification.
I am the author of the original post.
I want to be clear. I never claimed Obama is or will be Hitler, and I do not believe that he is.
My point, which was perhaps less artfully rendered than I would have liked, was that there are times in history that produce perfect storms of war, economic dislocation, and political upheaval. During these periods, citizens of all stripes–good people, well-meaning, who love their country as much as I do–seek solace within the most attractive port. During those times, history teaches us that people in power–at all levels–act irrationally when compared to different, more stable times. Quick actions, grasps for power, and restructuring to “weather the storm” invariably leads to disastrous results. Look at what our own government is doing today with our financial system. No one is allowed to make bad decisions and suffer for it? What is that message?
Obama may or may not lead from the center-left to counter the radical leftists who now control Congress. However, Obama also has radical connections that are undeniable. (The unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers just went public on Good Morning America and made a mockery of Obama’s claim that “he was just a guy who lived in my neighborhood.”) Obama has talked of “fundamentally changing America” (his quote, not mine), claims our Constitution is “fatally flawed,” and has supported and worked with and for organizations like ACORN that are openly corrupting our voting process. These are facts straight from his thin resume and/or his own mouth. (At last count, I believe nineteen states have launched formal investigations in ACORN.) That concerns me.
That same sort of criminal behavior walked the streets of Berlin, Hamburg, et. al., in the late 1920s and early 1930s with the complete blessing of prominent people, some in the German media, and politicians looking to climb the ladder of social upheaval.
It gets worse. Today, God and Christianity are beings stripped away; government fills that vacuum. Freedom of speech today means the freedom to spout leftist ideology–and little else. Take academia as a prime example. Our schools and universities are supposed to act as our training ground for the free and open exchange of all ideas; they are almost completely controlled today by Leftists. You do not have to look far to see this. Find for me a single instance of a group of student conservatives or instructors shouting down a left-wing speaker on a university campus, or rushing the stage, or throwing things at them, or threatening them with violence. But this happens to conservative speakers routinely. To a student of history, it is no different than the Brown Shirts of the 1930s intimidating others to silence their speech and influence their actions.
Sadly, too many people think the loss of freedom can’t happen today. Have we all forgotten how wonderful, strong, and proud England used to be? England stood up save the world from tyranny not long ago, risking all. Now, she is “sleepwalking into the arms of the enemy” (to borrow a phrase from a recent writer), too afraid to stand up to the Islamic 7th century death cultists who are steadily dismantling her institutions.
So please understand my premise. Obama is NOT Hitler. But I am positing that people with Mr. Obama’s world view would be MORE likely to take advantage of these perfect storm elements to “fundamentally” change the social order to reflect their belief system. Bad things happen to people in the name of good intentions. We have seen this over and over in history.
In all of American history, I have never witnessed a man like Mr. Obama who reaches one plateau only to leap for the next without accomplishing anything at any level worthy of spilled ink. Can you point one out for me? That makes him, in my eyes, overly ambitious. Pardon me if I am skeptical of the motives of overly ambitious people who want to rule me.
A swift tilt to radical tyranny here may happen, or it may not happen. But to pretend that my analogy does not hold water is to place one’s head too deep in rectal defilade for quick extraction. Best to keep the chin up, eyes open, and mouth shouting for freedom–and be wrong, don’t you think?
–TPS
** Clarification: In my original post I mentioned that Winston Churchill spoke out against German Tyranny while a member of the House of Lords. He was a member of Parliament, but not in the House of Lords. Sorry.

Well, At least one other American citizen has knowledge of history and reaches a conclusion similiar to mine. So maybe a not as crazy as I thought. Just maybe, given the presentr climate in this country, we could teeter into fascism due to a willing and unknowing electorate. It’s a scary thought.


71 posted on 02/22/2009 8:07:15 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: dvan

Bump


72 posted on 02/22/2009 8:08:57 PM PST by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: All

“Well, At least one other American citizen has knowledge of history and reaches a conclusion similiar to mine. So maybe a not as crazy as I thought.”

And BTW, that’s an unusual writing style for a man.


73 posted on 02/22/2009 8:13:04 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Jeff Chandler

This country is too strong and freedom loving to completely fall to Marxism and Socialism. The government isn’t strong enough, and our freedoms/rights do not come from human authority, they come from God.

I’m not saying we’re not going to suffer. We will, and there is a segment of our society, and individuals in this great nation that deserve every ounce of it.

What will be historic is the silent majority — the behemoth the media and political squawkers pretend doesn’t exist in their idle minds — will be rebelling and it’s about time, because they have been tolerant from the late ‘60’s onward. That threshold is disappearing quickly.

The good news is Zero’s fast paced ill actions and distractions will settle this sooner rather than later.

Keep it up Barry! Keep the pace! Bravo, fool. Unpresidential material in every aspect, a man-child usurper in over his crooked head and in for a big surprise.


74 posted on 02/22/2009 8:18:26 PM PST by TheBigJ
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More direct link:

http://patdollard.com/2008/11/i-am-a-student-of-history/

The guy who wrote this post was also interviewed live on Internet radio (you may be able to hear the interview at the above link).

I listened live at the time. Great stuff (and scary).

Note: and this guy was saying all of this JUST AFTER THE ELECTION, before the latest Soetoro marxist moves to take over the banking system (just heard that on John Batchelor radio....Citibank going to be U.S.-owned. Watch stocks tomorrow...oops).


75 posted on 02/22/2009 8:18:26 PM PST by DissentFromDayOne
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To: All

I agree with the original post. But, there is good news.

1) It took Marxism 80 years to grab a hold of this country. There is a reason it took that long.

2) The good guys are still armed. The bad guys are too dumb, lazy, and unmotivated to fight. :P

I view this as a no win for any Leftist push to control America.

If they push now they will see what the overwhelming majority of this country TRULY believes when you push them to the wall...

or...

The results of this dismall 4-8 year experiment reawaken true freedom supporters.

In a perverse way I hope they make us choke down a few trillion more in bailouts and the currency DOES get away from them.

Hungry men change governments, as they haven’t time for Monday Night Football and Oprah when their children are starving.


76 posted on 02/22/2009 8:20:14 PM PST by Carpentonto
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To: Carpentonto

If what they are doing now and have been doing is not pushing. I don’t know what to call it.


77 posted on 02/22/2009 8:24:50 PM PST by sport
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To: Lancey Howard

Gaming may be the way to go. We owe the system less and less. Eventually Atlas Shrugged.


78 posted on 02/22/2009 8:29:52 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Obama can increase the size of the Supreme Court at any time, just as FDR did to ram thru the New Deal.


79 posted on 02/22/2009 8:32:47 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Carpentonto

The Democrat Party as it stands now should be outlawed, as it is working to overthrow the Constitution, which it swore to uphold. The pushback needs to be complete.


80 posted on 02/22/2009 8:35:15 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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