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To: Star Traveler
Those are the numbers that have to change, and somehow get those people to *switch* (who did vote for Obama) to vote for the Republican ticket instead of the Democrat ticket.

I see two problems with this statement.

First off, I agree that getting "people" to change their minds and vote for Republicans is a good idea but it would only work if the people who voted for Zero were in fact real people. I propose that a much larger percentage than we might suspect, actually consists of "Made Up" people. In other words vote fraud. In my opinion, it is nigh impossible to convince someone who doesn't exist to change anything. Add to that ACORN getting about $5b in the "Stimulus" bill. How many additional votes will that buy I wonder.

Second, I am not sure that there are any Conservative republicans on deck for the 2010 House and Senate races. It would/will take a "Real Conservative" with a fire in their guts to reunite the conservatives and fight the corruption. Don't see any now and if they are not out there now, they probably won't make it by 2010.

80 posted on 02/22/2009 3:00:18 PM PST by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: Blackhawk

You said — “I see two problems with this statement.”

Okay, then — just to start off — that might be a major problem with the Republican Party, then... (just a comment to “get started”...) :-)

So, continuing with what you said — “First off, I agree that getting “people” to change their minds and vote for Republicans is a good idea but it would only work if the people who voted for Zero were in fact real people. I propose that a much larger percentage than we might suspect, actually consists of “Made Up” people. In other words vote fraud. In my opinion, it is nigh impossible to convince someone who doesn’t exist to change anything. Add to that ACORN getting about $5b in the “Stimulus” bill. How many additional votes will that buy I wonder.”

Well, I’ve proposed before, a solution for voter fraud. I say to get a National Voter ID card, with a person’s picture on it, and then enter into a national database, in realtime, when that person votes. If it’s detected at any other voting precinct that this person has voted already, then the “additional vote” is immediately denied.

I would propose getting to work on that one, right away.

But, additionally, I would like to see (from anyone or from anywhere...) some studies and specific numbers and/or polls or “whatever” that puts some real specifics and facts to this “voter fraud”. I want to see the extent of it and what someone has come up with. I hear and see a lot of statement posted to this effect, but I don’t see specific studies and/or something with solid numbers to back up the posts to that effect.

Of course, there are anecdotal accounts of fraud, and I’ve seen the news accounts of them. What I’m talking about is not anecdotal accounts, but studies that give “hard numbers” and specifics, so I can attach some significance to the anecdotal accounts. So far, with the anecdotal accounts, all I have are isolated stories in which anyone is free to draw any conclusion that they want, depending on their own political persuasion.

And lastly you were saying — “Second, I am not sure that there are any Conservative republicans on deck for the 2010 House and Senate races. It would/will take a “Real Conservative” with a fire in their guts to reunite the conservatives and fight the corruption. Don’t see any now and if they are not out there now, they probably won’t make it by 2010.”

Well, now that would be a *major problem* wouldn’t it?!!

If we don’t have anyone who can “stand up” and “qualify” — then we’re in a big mess all right... It would seem that (in this case), we’re going the way of the “Last of the Mohicans” and we’ll all be “bye-bye” pretty soon...

I would hope that this is not the case. But, if it is, then it would seem to indicate the *current nature* and “political persuasion” of the American voting public, and not a problem (consequently) in the Republican Party. If one is “dwindling” and no longer really represents the mass of the voting public (theoretically speaking now...), then one has to question whether they should remain “viable” in that situation.

If one disagrees and says that the Republicans *do represent* the majority of the voting public — then obviously the Republicans are not doing a good enough job in their political efforts.


89 posted on 02/22/2009 3:17:49 PM PST by Star Traveler
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