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To: Star Traveler
You still have to deal with the logistics of getting someone “out of office” and getting someone else “into office”.
I was addressing your comments about getting bills through Congress and how Congress isn't needed, what with the various aspects of presidential powers as an alternative means of legislating.

I wasn't addressing getting someone in or out of office. The 2010 election is still a ways away and a great deal of things can happen before then.

For example, a national emergency could be declared, even one of a financial order, by presidential fiat before then and things would be real different, real fast. There is even the haunting specter, within the framework of such a mental exercise, that the 2010 elections may never be held. A "Catastrophic Emergency", like that mentioned in NSPD 51 could be declared.
IMO a lawyer, and not even a particularly good one, could twist...(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;...to fit our current economic "crisis" into a national emergency. There are, of course, a plethora of other executive office decrees that could also go into effect if such an emergency were declared.
If it was
imaginable during the Bush administration isn't just as, or even more imaginable during 44's tenure in office?

Was the subject of presidential powers too touchy? It seems that you are tactfully trying to divert the topic away from that with this divergent statement of yours.

154 posted on 02/24/2009 12:29:37 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

In getting to the summary of your statement, you said — “Was the subject of presidential powers too touchy? It seems that you are tactfully trying to divert the topic away from that with this divergent statement of yours.”

No, not too touchy, but simply one in which the voters and the political parties have no part. You can talk all you want about it, but it won’t make a bit of difference, because it’s not a matter of “vote” for it to happen or not happen.

My point is that if one wanted to *do something* (in which you do have the ability to *do*) — that has to do with the 2010 and 2012 elections. And so, if one is to *actually accomplish something* — that is where it’s going to happen.

Now, in regards to the issue of executive orders, I know of nothing you can do to affect those one way or another, other than getting another President in office. So, I choose to get another President in office, which is something that is “do-able”...

And, on another aspect of executive orders, I’ve been hearing about this “taking over the government by executive orders” for decades now, and through several administrations. If that happens, then it would seem that the founding fathers have a flaw in the system that they set up...

So, if you really wanted to do something about that, it would seem that one would have to get a Constitutional Amendment put on the books that would limit the powers of the Presidential Office, to put forth these executive orders”. But, I doubt you can accomplish that — so I guess we’ll be left, instead, with another few decades of people warning about the imminent takeover of the U.S. by executive orders.

In the meantime, I’ll be voting in the elections... LOL...


155 posted on 02/24/2009 12:46:44 AM PST by Star Traveler
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