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To: Star Traveler
"...then the problem is not the political system and how it has gone against the conservatives — but rather — with the mass of people who don’t go along with the conservatives."

And just exactly how would having a media that is mostly censored by one party play out in your fair scenario of the civil system? I've traveled around in the last few years. It appears that all the countries in the entire west are experiencing massive lies and distortion of information.

126 posted on 02/22/2009 8:31:35 PM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Earthdweller

It wouldn’t work. That’s why ST keeps pounding that one note song.


132 posted on 02/22/2009 9:30:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Earthdweller

You said — “And just exactly how would having a media that is mostly censored by one party play out in your fair scenario of the civil system? I’ve traveled around in the last few years. It appears that all the countries in the entire west are experiencing massive lies and distortion of information.”

Actually, we live in a time — today — in which it’s impossible to eliminate ideas from the public sphere. Furthermore, the “speed” at which ideas can circulate is far beyond any other time in history. If there was *ever* censorship or “controlling” of ideas, it was in past decades and past centuries, because people did not have the means or ability to get contrary ideas (about whatever is going on in their world) from any other sources than government approved ones.

Back in the last century and before the Internet, the nation pretty much was “cohesive” and “united” in ideas and values, because these were the ideas and values that were controlled and disseminated among the public. And sure, many of them were correct, while others were just a convenience of the government and the powers that controlled the media.

So, I don’t see that it is possible — at all — for the control of ideas to happen. There may be attempts by some, but it’s *more difficult* than it ever was in any other period in the history of this world — to do so today, than at any other time.

Now, as to what are lies and what is the truth — that’s always been the problem. That requires discernment, as it always has in any age — *even* when you have *totally free* flow of idea without any control at all.

IN FACT — it’s *harder* to distinguish truth from fiction (i.e., lies) when information is *totally free* — than when it is controlled. That’s because the “lies” are told with as convincing abilities as the truth and there is nothing to stop them from being disseminated freely and widely...


146 posted on 02/23/2009 1:38:04 PM PST by Star Traveler
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