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To: Kansas58

>>>Actually, BOTH of McCain’s parents were old enough to pass on “natural born citizen” status to John McCain, regardless of John McCain’s place of birth.

That depends on what definition of Natural Born one uses. There are those that say that a child born to two citizens is natural born, but there are others that say the definition requires birth on US soil. Based on the qoute, Shelby may be an adherent to that definition.


55 posted on 02/22/2009 7:16:07 PM PST by nc28205
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To: nc28205; Kansas58

See the case of Donofrio v. Wells case, where Donofrio argued that NBC requires meeting both of these two criteria: 1. citizenship must be passed on by the constitutionally pertinent principle of natural law, which assumes that citizenship is inherited from one’s father’s citizenship and, 2. citizenship must be granted by means of being born in the actual territory of the United States.

According to this case, Barack H. Obama II is not qualified, because his father, Barack H. Obama I, was a citizen of the United Kingdom as a Kenyan. John McCain is not qualified, because he was born in Panama or the Panama Canal Zone, which was a protectorate of the United States and has never been a territory of the Untied States, even though his parents were U.S. Citizens.


56 posted on 02/22/2009 7:24:41 PM PST by nc28205
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My authority is the United States Department of State.
The State Department must ask how it is that you claim citizenship.
The State Department has different rules, based on the year that you were born, since Congress can not, by fiat, retroactively alter the law that was in place at the time of anyone's birth.

The Passport form says, clearly, that current law on citizenship, for those born abroad, does not apply to those born prior to 02/27/1983.

The law prior to that date required Obama’s mother to be 19 or older.

Both of McCain's parents were over 19. McCain is a natural born citizen, no matter where on Earth, or the Moon for that matter, he was born!

58 posted on 02/22/2009 7:56:56 PM PST by Kansas58
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