[America2012]

I think it would end up being city vs country myself....logistics will be on the country side as the cities will be surrounded and in poor supply after a month.

John Titor Ping!

Titor was only 4 years off in regards to predicting Barry's Socialism(a.k.a. American Federal Empire).

http://www.johntitor.com/Pages/CivilWar.html

There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005(2009). That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015(2019), Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.

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And if there's who still doubt the Titor stuff, he even predicted that there would be a President who would constantly compare himself to Lincoln, like Barry is doing now;

"The President or "leader" in 2005(2009) I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights."

Obama honors 'remarkable' Lincoln - Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/12/obama-honors-remarkable-lincoln/

Obama To Be Sworn In On Lincoln Bible
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-19-Lincoln-bible_N.htm

In Obama Train Trip, Echoes Of Lincoln
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/12/15/in_obama_train_trip_echoes_of.html

[mojitojoe]

http://www.johntitor.com/Pages/CivilWar.html

That’s very scary.

[Nowhere Man]

Ah, another John Titor enthusiast, I'm a Titor junky myself. BTW, I do think that until there is some proof, the people or person behind the Titor story is most likely a conservative/libertarian who is using the story as a warning to where we are headed or could be headed. I don't discount the time traveller theory all the way albeit I'm dubious until there is proof, but I'd like to keep the door cracked because you never can know.

With the 2004 election, I thought that we could have derailed Titor (I'm just assuming the story is true or nearly so for sake of argument) since he said 2005 was the key year. Well, looking at what he said, there are some uncanny coincidences here, albeit he was 4 years off it seems. So perhaps 2008 was 2004 to him in his timeline and so on. Titor did even say there are infinite universes out there so maybe the schism in his timeline happened in 2004/05 whereas it could happen in 2009/2010 in hours.

Even my father made the same predictions of a civil war happening in our lifetimes although he's been saying that since 1973 or so.

[antisocial]

BUMP

[Nowhere Man]

Ah, another John Titor reader. IIRC, Titor said the President in 2005was actually concerned for the good of the nation but the one coming in 2009 is just out for his own power. In that respect, he is on schedule but as you pointed out, the rest of it seems to be 4 or 5 years off.