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To: Marie2
"Yes, presupposing something is true is just as valid as presupposing it isn’t true. Nothing straw man about it."

You missed the point. There was nothing in our discussion about a choice of things to presuppose. That's the straw.

"Presupposing" things to be true, or false, is not science. It is faith. That is the point.

195 posted on 02/20/2009 9:10:02 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo

“”Presupposing” things to be true, or false, is not science. It is faith. That is the point. “

Yet you presuppose the creation account in Genesis 1 to be false.


198 posted on 02/20/2009 9:25:27 AM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: mlo

So would you consider the affirmative statements in the following scientific publication to be science or faith?

“You shouldn’t be here. Not just reading this blog, but anywhere.

You shouldn’t exist. Period.

Moments after the big bang, equal amounts of matter and antimatter floated through the universe and when particles of each collided, they annihilated each other, leaving nothing but free floating energy in their paths.

Suddenly something changed, allowing for more matter than antimatter. The little extra bit that escaped annihilation clumped together and over time planets… and eventually you formed.

But billions of years later no one knows exactly how that happened.”

http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2009/02/13/key-to-origin-of-universe-could-be-neutrinos-and-project-x/


203 posted on 02/20/2009 2:02:59 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: mlo
"Presupposing" things to be true, or false, is not science.

Morality (and all of those associated ideals) are rooted entirely in a presupposition that some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior.

Nature is pure war, with every man against another. Fear of death is the only way to keep peace; so man is civilized by the restraint of violence against him for transgressions upon his neighbor.

211 posted on 02/21/2009 4:46:03 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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