[BelegStrongbow]

Well, for my own part, it would be wonderful to see the chain activated. It is truly past time for the Church Fathers to affirm in unmistakeable terms what is doctrine and what is sin. I am scandalized by SanFranNan (and I used to live within 20 miles of her district, so my discomfort goes back a ways). Let’s see action.

[Constitutions Grandchild]

It should be all of our prayers that it doesn't come to this. It really should. It grieves the heart of the Church when it gets to this point, and each of us should hope that she finds the right answer upon reflection and prayer.

However, neither God, nor the Church, is going to take a 2x4 to her head to get her to do it.