see #47
As I noted, those who believe that something is inevitable are in effect on the sidelines of history. If doing something now is useless, when will it be useful? What does waiting accomplish. I told you so is worthless if you are proclaiming such from the ruins of a once great nation.
When will those who are capable of making a living but chose to survive on the comfort of government handouts say uncle and be part of the solution?
Post #47 is right, those who enjoy the benefits of freebee's will never want to let go of them. There will always be a fight.
The bigger question is, do we avoid the fight today in order to not get our noses bloodied, or do we start today while it is only our noses at stake. Tomorrow it may be our arm, or our family.
Just because it is not easy now doesn't mean that it won't be harder later.
Personal opinion of course.