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Wal-Mart's glow-in-the-dark mystery
The Toronto Star ^ | Feb 15, 2009 | Tyler Hamilton

Posted on 02/15/2009 9:15:56 AM PST by fanfan

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To: fanfan

Tritium emits beta particles - electrons. You know, those things that come out of the wall socket? Any claims that it causes cancer are bunko.


21 posted on 02/15/2009 9:43:23 AM PST by Scutter
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To: CindyDawg
Perhaps part of the “secret” formula for black-light tattoos?
22 posted on 02/15/2009 9:47:12 AM PST by Dust in the Wind
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To: umgud

Smoke detectors contain Americium-241, not Tritium.


23 posted on 02/15/2009 9:48:45 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: fanfan

Turn off all the lights then start looking around. They probably fell off the wall then were kicked behind some boxes or storage shelves.........


24 posted on 02/15/2009 9:52:30 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Welcome to Detroit, the Renaissance city......)
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To: saganite

SNIP* CRACKPOT DHIREN BAROT: Redacted evidence provides riches of embarrassment

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2007/02/crackpot-dhiren-barot-redacted-evidence.html
In other words, one is asked to believe that a dirty bomb can be made from thousands of smoke detectors.

However, making a dirty bomb from a lorry full of the household items wasn’t Barot’s only wish. He also fiddled with other really stupid ideas.

One involved used exit signs as a weapon of terror. In the United States, exit signs containing a very small amount of tritium, a radioisotope of hydrogen, have been smashed in buildings and thrown into landfills (broken and leaking) for years. It’s thought to be a slight hazard but no one really cares about the issue as the danger is negligible.
One of Dhiren Barot’s dirty bomb plots proposed the throwing of exist signs into the middle of rooms.

Tritium readily forms water when exposed to oxygen. As it undergoes radioactive decay, tritium emits a very low energy beta particle and transforms to stable, nonradioactive helium. Tritium has a half-life of 12.3 years.

Current treatment of landfill leachates do not remove tritium.

As with all ionizing radiation, exposure to tritium increases the risk of developing cancer. However, because it emits very low energy radiation and leaves the body relatively quickly, for a given amount of activity ingested, tritium is one of the least dangerous radionuclides. Since tritium is almost always found as water, it goes directly into soft tissues and organs. The associated dose to these tissues are generally uniform and dependent on the tissues’ water content.

Barot also dallied with getting tritium for a dirty bomb from wristwatches.

Further explained in EPA fact sheet and/or search:tritium exit signs, etc.

More at: http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/tritium.html


25 posted on 02/15/2009 9:54:21 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: FreePaul

I wonder if “Good” “Union” companies like Target & Costco have such nefarious devices in their stores?


26 posted on 02/15/2009 9:54:25 AM PST by Seeking the truth (Obama "Zero" faux postage stamps, tees, mousepads, bumper stickers - 0cents.com)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Hey they used box-cutters to commandeer planes to bring down 2 skyscrapers! Radioactive EXIT signs sounds like their getting pretty serious!
27 posted on 02/15/2009 9:54:55 AM PST by classified
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To: fanfan
If tritium is ingested, for example, by a child who breaks a sign with a hockey stick, it's much more potent.

How charmingly Canadian!

28 posted on 02/15/2009 9:55:20 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: snarks_when_bored

Really, this Wal-Mart’s fault.

Really, I mean it. Those little old ladies at the exit doors
have got to be taught how to tackle those
thieves instead of...”thanks for shopping Wal-Mart.”


29 posted on 02/15/2009 9:55:40 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to Obama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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To: fanfan
See Tom Clancy, The Sum of All Fears.

Tritium is used in H-bombs.

Be VERY afraid.

Just be prepared to nuke someone (Mecca?) in response.

Cheers!

30 posted on 02/15/2009 9:55:50 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: PLMerite
Tritium gas is used as a “Zipper” in fission and fission/fusion explosions. It is injected into the Pu pit at just the right moment to aid the chain reaction. It allows much smaller and more efficient bombs.

It has a half life of about 12 1/2 years, so it is around for a while.

31 posted on 02/15/2009 9:55:53 AM PST by MindBender26 (The Hellfire Missile is one of the wonderful ways God shows he loves American Soldiers and Marines)
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To: Scutter

However, EPA does state “ may increase the risk “

http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/tritium.html#environment


32 posted on 02/15/2009 9:56:43 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Yes, it’s called CYA.


33 posted on 02/15/2009 9:58:10 AM PST by Scutter
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To: fanfan
'Radioactive Boy Scout' Charged in Smoke Detector Theft

DETROIT — A man who became the subject of a book called "The Radioactive Boy Scout" after trying to build a nuclear reactor in a shed as a teenager has been charged with stealing 16 smoke detectors. Police say it was a possible effort to experiment with radioactive materials.

David Hahn, 31, was being held Friday on a $5,000 bond in the Macomb County Jail after he was arraigned Thursday on felony larceny charges. Clinton Township police Capt. Richard Maierle said Hahn denied the charges.

A district court clerk on Friday said Hahn did not have an attorney. The Associated Press called the jail in an effort to speak to Hahn, but a sheriff's spokesman said the jail does not give messages to inmates. His preliminary examination was scheduled for Aug. 13.

Investigators say Hahn was arrested Wednesday after a maintenance worker saw him stealing a detector from a ceiling in an apartment complex where he lived. They later found the other detectors in his apartment in the Detroit suburb of Clinton Township.

Police say that Hahn's face was covered with open sores, possibly from constant exposure to radioactive materials.

Hahn learned that a small amount of a radioactive isotope could be found in smoke detectors during his experiments in the 1990s, according to a 1998 article in Harper's Magazine that later expanded into a book by journalist Ken Silverstein.

Maierle said his department evacuated the apartment complex and called the state police bomb squad, which found no hazardous materials.

He said officials learned in January that Hahn had returned to the area after serving in the U.S. Navy.

"Because of his past, we were a tad bit concerned," he said, adding his department alerted the FBI when they found out he was back in Michigan. "We didn't want any other radioactive sites to pop up."

Hahn's first brush with authorities came in August 1994, after police stopped him during an investigation into neighborhood tire thefts. Officers found radioactive materials, chemicals, rocks, plastic and glass bottles and two exploded pipes in his car, Maierle said.

In a subsequent interview with a state health official, Hahn said he had been trying to produce energy and hoped it would help him earn his Eagle Scout badge, according to the Harper's article. Hahn also acknowledged having a backyard laboratory in a potting shed at his mother's home in Oakland County's Commerce Township, the article said.

Authorities declared the structure a hazardous materials site and sealed it. Crews from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency led a Superfund cleanup in 2005 that included dismantling the shed and shipping its remains to be buried at a low-level radioactive waste site in Utah, the article said.

Hahn received a Scouting merit badge for atomic energy in 1991, the article said.

Maierle said Hahn's 1994 arrest was expunged in 1996. His arrest this week was reported by The Macomb Daily of Mount Clemens.

Related story: Tale of the Radioactive Boy Scout.

34 posted on 02/15/2009 9:59:13 AM PST by Joiseydude (Obama: "Putting my ideals into effect are more important than your safety from terrorist acts")
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Speaking of things that glow in the dark...

Click on my lightsaber to see what some kids do with themselves and things that glow....
35 posted on 02/15/2009 9:59:53 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: fanfan

Seems like every WalMart door would have an exit sign, plus a security camera pointed at it to catch anyone leaving with unpaid for merchandise. And none of these security cameras saw anyone unscrewing and unwiring a single sign?


36 posted on 02/15/2009 10:00:50 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: fanfan

Sounds like the makings of a particularly dirty weapon that can be used in crowds without anybody knowing until the effects start showing up.


37 posted on 02/15/2009 10:01:17 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: fight_truth_decay

Your post is very informative, especially since my knowledge of tritium is right up there with my knowledge of rocket science. However, the info you posted won’t get disseminated and the press, if they do anything at all with this story, will use it to frighten and stampede the public.


38 posted on 02/15/2009 10:06:13 AM PST by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: classified
This is a lot of fear mongering. Only need to read the facts above, I researched. Wal Mart is not the only one with Exit signs..just they are singled out as targets for whatever reason.. as I checked the NRC. Land fills have improved over the years etc..Think what was buried out there Pre Land fills called “town dumps” in many states. Factory wastes etc investigated and movies made out of news stories over the years.

I remember I came across a guy who would enter a site talk about just this very subject a couple years back. He was out of England. Pretty detailed as well, so watched for him to come on (usually Monday) and notified authorities just in case. The person would talk about how to make a dirty bombs and the radius it would take to do damage etc. He would focus on compiling smoke detectors etc. Said he had done this and tested it. He was probably a nut case but... That is why this story sparked my interest.

39 posted on 02/15/2009 10:07:47 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fella

Sounds like BS to me.

You can go into just about any store and purchase far more deadly items if you want to hurt people.

Common household cleanrs, pool sanitizers, bottled propane and so on.

Exit signs? Please....


40 posted on 02/15/2009 10:11:42 AM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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