[El Gato]

So will you argue that a twelve year old is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

No, but when the difference in exercise of the Jurisdiction of the United States is due to nationality, then the foreign national is not subject to the complete jurisdiction of the US.

Other countries get testy if you try to draft their citizens. So did we in 1812. They get testy because you have no right or legitmate power to exercise that sort of jurisdiction over their nationals.

[Michael Michael]

No, but when the difference in exercise of the Jurisdiction of the United States is due to nationality, then the foreign national is not subject to the complete jurisdiction of the US.

Again, you're trying to equate exclusion with immunity.

Here, let's boil this down to its essence.

You're arguing that they're not under the complete jurisdiction of the United States while they are here. Ok. If that's the case, then who does the remainder of jurisdiction belong to?

Or to put it another way, who else has jurisdiction within the United States?