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To: Michael Michael
No, it doesn't. As Kenyan law no longer considers him to be a Kenyan citizen.

Yes it does. The intent of the Constitutional clause natural born citizen is a safeguard against loyalties to another nation besides the United States as president. Obama once a citizen of Kenya defies the 'natural born citizen' clause.

329 posted on 02/15/2009 1:33:59 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Yes it does. The intent of the Constitutional clause natural born citizen is a safeguard against loyalties to another nation besides the United States as president. Obama once a citizen of Kenya defies the 'natural born citizen' clause.

The intent of the natural born clause was to prohibit naturalized citizens from holding the office of President, i.e. those who were not born here. Just as the English common law had restricted naturalized citizens from holding certain political offices.


334 posted on 02/15/2009 1:40:05 PM PST by Michael Michael
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To: Red Steel; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
Yes it does. The intent of the Constitutional clause natural born citizen is a safeguard against loyalties to another nation besides the United States as president. Obama once a citizen of Kenya defies the 'natural born citizen' clause.

Red Steel, you are Correct.

The Natural Born Citizen clause is NOT some stodgy, old, white-man's rule to keep foreigners from holding the office of President.

The Founders wanted the President to be a NBC to ensure that the ONE person sitting at the top of the Executive branch has UNQUESTIONABLE, UNWAVERING loyalty to the United States, first and foremost.

As I've pointed out before, at one point, the delegates writing the Constitution in 1787 considered THREE "presidents" in the Executive for "checks and balances." They considered a NBC clause for Senators as well. Debating those issues, they felt that a NBC clause for Senators would limit the pool of possible candidates and could cause bad feelings with immigrants needed to "jump start" the newly-formed republic.

In the end, the Framers compromised that Senators be required to be US residents for 9 years, while striking the NBC clause for the office.

The Framers also compromised on ONE Executive vs THREE. But to ensure "checks and balances," the Framers inserted in Art II, Sect. 1, Clause 5: "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President..."

The NBC clause was NOT an accident, nor was it an inane rule to be restrictive to immigrants, and it certainly isn't just a "political" issue ... LOYALTY to the US is the reason the NBC clause was inserted into the Constitution for the POTUS.

You have nine Justices sitting here (internal checks and balances):

You have 535 Senator and Representatives sitting here (internal checks and balances):

and

BUT only ONE person sitting here (NO internal checks and balances):

For that 3:00 am phone call to the White House, it would be comforting to know that the ONE person sitting in that chair has had NO allegiances to any other country.

Remember this from Fight The Smears?: “As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

AT BEST, Obama has openly admitted he was a dual citizen of the UK/Kenya from 1961 to 1982, nearly half of his life.

Yeah, LOYALTY is at the HEART of Natural Born Citizen for the President of the United States, and that's a BIG concern with Obama sitting in the chair.


351 posted on 02/15/2009 3:27:20 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Red Steel

I’ve been reading your posts.

Are you a paid Obama agent or a volunteer?


416 posted on 02/15/2009 9:56:10 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural Born" citizen)
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To: Beckwith
Me to Double Mike: Yes it does. The intent of the Constitutional clause natural born citizen is a safeguard against loyalties to another nation besides the United States as president. Obama once a citizen of Kenya defies the 'natural born citizen' clause.

How do you Obot out of this? Are you sure you posted to the correct guy?

419 posted on 02/15/2009 10:03:20 PM PST by Red Steel
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