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To: Tolik

Most people have by now forgotten that on the eve of war in Iraq, North Korea started rattling sabers and threatening to invade South Korea in a rather transparent effort to distract us.

There was a long line of Democrats who went on camera on every talking head show out there to demand that we confront North Korea, “the real enemy”. This, as our troops gathered in Kuwait, right before they crossed the line into Iraq.

For anyone paying attention, this places Saddam, North Korea, and the Democrats all in the same bed.

What I’ve found is that Democrats, when they need to sound “butch”, will often beat their chests and preen and pose valiantly as they demand a war you are not in, in an effort to scuttle a war that you are in. Its a double whammy. They undercut the war you’re in without being labeled anti-war. But they can never be counted on to back you through any war, certainly not once the going gets tough.

In Iraq, most Democrats voted for war and most of them also went straight out to news conferences to denounce the war... within minutes of the vote. Their seat in the senate was still warm when they were on camera railing against the war they had just authorized. This allowed them to play it either way as events unfolded. If it went well, they were for it right from the beginning. And if it went badly, they were against it... right from the beginning.


5 posted on 02/11/2009 8:59:46 AM PST by marron
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To: marron
For anyone paying attention, this places Saddam, North Korea, and the Democrats all in the same bed.

Because its all about power. They believe that their vision of America is so much better than conservatives’ that any means achieving it will be OK.

It was never clearer when  House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn said about prospects of a surge success in Iraq: He said that a positive report by Gen. David Petraeus back in September 2007 will be "a real big problem for us" (link

us here = Dems and not US.

MSM let it slide, of course, and only talk radio and conservative bloggers reported it. But it can't be more honest and cynical then that: success of the country does not matter - success of the party does.

On many occasions I commented that I am 100% sure that it would’ve been no anti-war movement to speak about if it was President Gore who lead the action in Afghanistan and Iraq. There is big BUT and IF buried here, though. A President Gore, Kerry, Clinton or Obama is simply not capable of doing what Bush did. We have a good example from our ally Israel: their war against Hezbollah a few summers back was pathetic - lead by central left government amidst unprecedented support from their usually feisty media. Israeli government was timid and indecisive. They probably made some conclusions out of it, because this time around the war against Hamas did not have the same air of impotence around it. A deterring tough guy image was probably restored. Still a cynic in me says that the center-left leaders would not start this war regardless of Hamas escalations IF not for the coming elections where they desperately needed to look tough.

Its amazing how lefty groups are not supportive of efforts that actually trying to achieve their supposed goals. For rare exclusions feminists are absent from helping women of Afghanistan. Environmentalists are silent on the fact that Saddam's handling of oil fields was a disaster; or altering marshes was ecological disaster of its own. Imagine a gay parade anywhere in the Mideast but Israel! Did you see in the news any pro-Israel gay group? Very much similar to Kafkaesque response of some Human Rights group another day that (paraphrasing) they criticize Israel much more than Hamas because Hamas is so obvious violator that its waste of time to talk about it.

7 posted on 02/11/2009 9:42:46 AM PST by Tolik
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To: marron

The American public cannot be so dimwitted as to believe the transparent lies of the left. Instead, most Americans are self serving cowards.
Drug activity, abortion, gambling, divorce rates, our vast entertainment industry, government dependence on handouts, are all evidence of a selfish, delusional populas of mindless adolescents. The election of 0 proves my hypothesis. We do not have enough adult minded people in our country to elect a patriot over a crime lord.


10 posted on 02/11/2009 10:43:14 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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