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To: Allegra
None are so blind as those that cannot see. Who among us believe that with only the proper organization and right message, the California electorate would embrace conservative principles? No one, right, because we all recognize the tipping point was reached long ago in that state.

Well, I have news for you: the US has also passed the tipping point where resource consumers outnumber productive taxpayers. In other words, the US is now a center-left country; people enjoy the promise of government benefits and elected someone who promised them more.

Unless you are in complete denial, we have long ago passed the point where existing political processes could provide any means of effecting conservative change. The alternative then is that the state must fall & be reconstituted.

The steps BHO is taking is ensuring that the US will fail by either defaulting on its obligations and/or debasing the USD. Either way, the effect is the same: government financing will be reduced to cash operations. IOW, the welfare state dies. For this, we should be rejoicing. At the least, whisper to him to sip the potion to set events in motion.

Personally, I'm hoping for a USSR style collapse where the existing leadership just sort of disappears. One day they were in charge, and the next they were non-existent.

105 posted on 02/10/2009 12:06:51 PM PST by semantic
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To: semantic
None are so blind as those that cannot see.

You referring to me with that pomposity? That's mighty sweet of you.

Or are you replying to the wrong poster? I've said nothing about California, proper organization or some of the other things you reference.

And I am not in "complete denial"; I just don't choose to wallow in gloom and doom. I have also lived outside the US for over five years now.

I don't necessarily agree with you that the US is a center-left country either. I believe people have gotten complacent and it's going to take something like this awful economy to wake them up.

109 posted on 02/10/2009 12:14:16 PM PST by Allegra
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To: semantic
Personally, I'm hoping for a USSR style collapse where the existing leadership just sort of disappears. One day they were in charge, and the next they were non-existent. I am too, just get it over with so we can rebuild. When people start taking all of their money out, it will crash fast. Gold, guns and ammo. Guns and ammo are like gold when the dollar has no value.
136 posted on 02/10/2009 2:34:19 PM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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