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To: bruinbirdman

If a youth is paid by the government to do nothing, then it is the government keeping him down.

Rather than pity single mothers and their children (not equating them with widows and orphans, or true victims of husbands who abandon their families), the behaviors need to be shamed.

Hooking up is supposed to be BAD. It needs to be a shameful thing. Children unfortunately born to poor single mothers need to get out there and work twice as hard as their peers from intact homes to become self sufficient and rise above the unfortunate hookup that led to their creation.

In tough economic times we need to save our charity for the people who need it THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. We need to constantly be noting this when we look at programs to help the “poor.” No more pitying the partiers.


50 posted on 02/09/2009 4:54:39 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle; bruinbirdman
Your post #50.

If a youth is paid by the government to do nothing, then it is the government keeping him down.

Yes indeed. For what would any or most youths do, if they did not have to have a sense of responsibility? Nothing to do, but shout a pathetic frontal assault at society. Then bring anxiety and grief to those that do work and are not affluent.

That society always has had the "Dregs" is a fact. Even if there is full employment they exist. Old Karl Marx, though discredited in many ways got one thing right. This was one of his terms for certain of those within this group.

"Lumpen proletariat:
refuse of all classes including swindlers, confidence tricksters,brothel keepers, rag and bone merchants, beggars ,and other flotsam of society".

Now these persons do not seem to have even a prayer of doing anything, that rewards the inherent desire of the human being. The usual naysayers who automatically knee jerk the old kindly and understanding theme of non-judgemental cliches are their enemy- not their friend. One day these youths will wake up and find youth has gone and nobody wants them. Shrivelled and old.

79 posted on 02/09/2009 6:47:11 PM PST by Peter Libra
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