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To: hennie pennie
Excellent advice pennie.

Yes, I do agree that something bad is in the works.

I stay at threat level orange at all times and stay as close to home as life will allow. No unnecessary long trips.

Here's a new twist to all this madness: the prospect of a second civil war. Lots of folks discussing the possibility around here.

1,400 posted on 10/26/2009 9:15:57 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last.....it might be.)
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To: appalachian_dweller
I just remembered something else that came from the same retired Mossad officer who became a security consultant.

He said that every single person should have a spare set of sturdy running shoes in a desk drawer at their place of work.

The spare set of running shoes MUST be where they are easy to reach instantly, and definitely not packed away in some locker on a different floor. You must have immediate access to this pair of sturdy shoes - they may save your life.

He explained that most of the footwear worn to work is absolutely inappropriate to attempt to run half a mile or more away from a catastrophe, that is, if the high heels still exist after walking down twenty flights of stairs.

Now, of course, some of us wear plain sensible running shoes almost all the time, but he is totally -- most of the work world dress code demands the fancy fashionable non-running version of foot covering. And this could have deadly results if there is something that you have to seriously ESCAPE.

1,402 posted on 10/26/2009 10:59:15 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: appalachian_dweller
>>>> "Here's a new twist to all this madness: the prospect of a second civil war. Lots of folks discussing the possibility around here." <<<<


I only see discussions at online forums, there is no one outside of my closest family members who ever mentions any such possibility -- indeed, if most Americans are like the people I run into in daily life, then most Americans do not stay current with even the most rudimentary news, much less so, then with geopolitics or the potential political fracturing of our nation.

I think I'm more concerned about an attack from without - of the nuclear variety. No accompanying invasion, and it would likely be somewhat disguised under the rubric of "terrorists," with the emphasis on 'STATE SPONSORED' and less on terrorism, if you get my gist.

Perhaps I've been watching too many movies, or reading too many books with elaborate terror plots.

Anyway, there is an old book that I read decades ago, which I advise you to find a copy of and read. It seems right up your alley.

The author was a state official in Utah, and he wrote a book about how to survive a nuclear attack.

One thing that he insisted upon and explained in detail, which I've not seen mentioned anywhere online, but perhaps you have, is that everyone should keep ALL their emergency food & miscellaneous disaster supplies INSIDE of black plastic trash bags.

Really, he was quite firm about this, and was amazed that not everyone in America knew this.

So why should disaster supplies, particularly one's emergency food stash be kept inside of black plastic trash bags?

He claimed, that in the event of a nuclear accident or a nuclear attack, that ANYTHING inside the trash bag would NOT get any radioactive fallout on it.

It's extremely important to NOT eat food covered with radioactive fallout.

Anyway, after the coast was clear, then you'd carefully remove the plastic bag and dispose of it, it has to be destroyed -- and all the cans & boxes of food would be 'CLEAN,' but one has to be careful because the trash bag will be coated with radioactive fallout.

You don't want to be opening tins of food where the outside of the can is coated with nuclear fallout - it's extremely unsafe...

Anyway, I thought you might want to look into this -- there must be someone online who has a copy of this long out-of-print title and can give the specifics.


The Reluctant Survivors
by: Wayne D. Le Baron

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22the+reluctant+survivors%22

Unfortunately, I have NO idea if the color BLACK is important, or if maybe way back then, that that was the only color available, and that it was just a common adjective. I have NO idea if there were white trash bags, or even clear trash bags, and have no idea if either would provide the same protection.

1,411 posted on 10/27/2009 5:55:18 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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