[utahagen]

Exactamundo. We already have socialized medicine (medicare and medicaid). If we let the government take responsibility for providing and paying for even more healthcare, healthcare must be rationed. Old people have more ailments and more time to go to the doctor. Plus, old people are more afraid of death than young people, so they monitor themselves and panic every time they have an itch. Before anyone starts yelling at me, my point is that this is why I am not in favor of this stimulus package. What the liberals know but won't admit is that something has to give and, if the lefties get their way and pay for more healthcare for the under-65 set, it's Granny who will be at the back of the line.

[goodnesswins]

Oh, but Granny Pelosi or Clinton will have great healthcare whenever they want it. Some are more VALUABLE than others.

[Mom MD]

Most older folks do not run to the doctor all the time. The ones that do I find it is out of lonliness, not fear of death

[NonValueAdded]

At the risk of sounding tinfoilish, I am very concerned about the big medical records push. Even Newt is behind it but he has a commercial reason. The messiah is pushing it because he says it will solve all the cost problems - as if insurance companies and the guberment haven’t been trying to squeeze every penny of cost out that they can. Sorry, I don’t buy it. A physician’s access to current medical history cannot be that much of a cost factor. However, centralized control and access to all your health information including your history is a prerequisite for rationing and risk-based healthcare decisions. Something pretty sinister is going down here, right before our eyes.