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To: GodGunsGuts
Sorry, all phylogenetic data shows that humans and chimps are closer to each other than either is to a gorilla. You not understanding the data doesn't mean it doesn't show that humans and chimps are closer. So much for your “logical impossibility”.

You have not shown how the GULO pseudogene is functional in primates, or demonstrated how the phylogenetic pattern one can form from it is at all inconsistent with other phylogenetic markers to derive primate lineages.

So now it is “most cases” that they cannot find intact virions from. So much for your “ONLY antibodies” and “zero zip nada of anything else”. When caught out in a blatant lie it is nice that you are at least willing to move the goal posts.

And in case you forgot....

Islamic jihadists are in fact Islamic jihadists not “temple of Darwin fanatics”.

Also, the shuffling of genetic elements to make the variable region of an antibody takes place in the absence of antigen presentation.

Is not the function of ERV sequences retroviral replication? If not how do you explain how they exactly match the sequence and gene order of known retrovirus that are also capable of incorporating themselves into the genome?

So much for ERV’s all being functional. Their primary function is retroviral replication. That these disabled viral genomes have, in a few cases, been co-opted by the host organism to derive functionality only reinforces the evolutionary paradigm. That and the fact that most ERV’s are not conserved between species, but the few found to have function are highly conserved between species.

102 posted on 02/10/2009 1:12:02 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

==Sorry, all phylogenetic data shows that humans and chimps are closer to each other than either is to a gorilla.

Wrong, I showed you the phylogenetic possibilities in Evo papers published in Temple of Darwin journals in good standing. These alternatives demonstrated that they are not sure which is closer to which. Your beef is with them, not with me.

==So much for your “logical impossibility”.

I don’t actually remember the context in which I supposedly said what you have in quotes. Do you have a link?

==So now it is “most cases” that they cannot find intact virions from.

I never said in all cases, I always said “most” or in the “vast majority” of cases or something like that.

==Islamic jihadists are in fact Islamic jihadists not “temple of Darwin

There are plenty (perhaps even a majority) of so-called jihadists who are actually rabid, God-hating materialists. There is plenty of evidence to substanciate this, but you are not interested in expanding your understanding re: the complexities of the WOT. If you want to bury your head in the sand on this issue, be my guest.

==So much for ERV’s all being functional.

I never said they were “all” functional. I predicted that they would find function for most ERVs based on the Creation Model, whereas Evos such as yourself predicted mostly junk (97% junk, to be exact). And now that they have found that some 93%+ of the genome is functional, my prediction is coming true.

BTW, all that junk DNA having function will send all those philogenetic trees based on neutral mutation into the trashheep of history.


104 posted on 02/10/2009 1:36:36 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream
Sorry, all phylogenetic data shows that humans and chimps are closer to each other than either is to a gorilla.

I'm sorry, but phylogenetic tree proposals for mammals are not exactly sound.

109 posted on 02/10/2009 2:09:50 PM PST by dan1123 (Liberals sell it as "speech which is hateful" but it's really "speech I hate".)
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