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To: Jim Noble
...AS IF these entirely meaningless pieces of paper, scripted by an unsavory assembly of Chinamen, Hottentots, and barbarians have some sort of protective value for Israel.

That is a classic, beautiful description of the U.N. then and now.:)

The real, actually existing Israel, unfortunately, is a machtstaat, which exists only as long as it can produce Galil rifles and men who are willing to go into battle to kill her enemies.

Yes, Israel has been forced to become a power state; it's either that or pack up and go find a better neighborhood.

This real Israel is anathema to the internationalist American Jewish Obama voters, and, it now appears, they may be willing to see the real Israel destroyed because it does not measure up to their fantasies.

I'm sensing that also. There is always the strong liberal Jewish need to support the 'oppressed' underdogs, even if the underdog Palestinians have only one function and that's to bedevil Israel.

It is strange, but Israel's strongest supporters have long been American Christians. And then American Jews have accused American Christians of supporting Israel in hopes of bringing about Armageddon and the second coming.:) You can't win for losing in these arguments, and it always appears hopeless.

38 posted on 02/09/2009 8:16:13 PM PST by xJones
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To: xJones

And then American Jews have accused American Christians of supporting Israel in hopes of bringing about Armageddon and the second coming.:) You can’t win for losing in these arguments, and it always appears hopeless.

That’s because some fundamentalist Christians indeed to believe in Israel’s role in bringing about Armageddon and the Last Days. Many of these Christians hide this belief in order to appear they are not supporting Israeli’s for this reason only, but for some fundamentalist types this is their belief. It’s like ImaNutJob over in Iran. He believes that a nuclear holocaust needs to be instituted in order to bring on the return of the 12th Iman, the Mahdi, who will make everyone on earth into a Muslim and then paradise will be achieved. Both have the same basic belief of bring on turmoil so that the coming of the Mahdi, or the second coming of Christ, can occur. I find both beliefs frightening.


39 posted on 02/10/2009 2:04:36 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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