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To: GodGunsGuts
==The age of the Universe is +/- 13 billion years.

Is your contention observable and repeatable?

Dude, believe your lying eyes.
Go outside tonight and if the sky is clear look up at the sky with a telescope or pair of binoculars. The light of many distant stars and galaxies take 100's of millions of light years to get here, so by definition, these have to be 100's of millions of years old.
The Hubble telescope can see stars being formed billions of years ago because it can see much farther into space and can see light billions of light years away and which take billions of years to reach its lens.
When we look at distant stars we are seeing them the way they looked when the light left them not as they are right now.

29 posted on 02/08/2009 3:59:41 PM PST by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Riodacat
Two independent teams of scientists have found a way to reduce the speed of light to zero. Although light in a vacuum moves at a neck-breaking 186,000 miles a second, materials with a high refractive index can slow it down.

So if Newton is correct, there must also be a way to speed up light, which would imply that there is something faster than the speed of light. We just haven't discovered it yet. That's the problem with scientific "fact." It's based only on what is known/seen/observed. It leaves no room for what is unknown/not seen/not observed. Science revises its opinion when new observable data becomes available - which is the only intelligent position to take.

That's why faith is so important to Christians. We believe by faith because we know that what is currently unseen will one day provide the answers that unite science and faith. Science and religion are at odds only when those who follow one believe that the other is impossible.

Malachi 3:6 I the Lord do not change.

39 posted on 02/08/2009 4:30:22 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Riodacat

==The light of many distant stars and galaxies take 100’s of millions of light years to get here, so by definition, these have to be 100’s of millions of years old.

It is quite possible for our galaxy to be young, and the galaxies much further out to be billions of years old, and yet owe their existence to the same creation event.


64 posted on 02/08/2009 8:00:49 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Riodacat

Dude, our God is a big God. He created light before he created the stars. Light is His to do whatever He wants with. It’s nice of Him to let us see His stars which should cause us to glorify Him, not mock Him.


79 posted on 02/09/2009 5:03:55 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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