Octuplet mom defends her ‘unconventional’ choices

What a TYPICAL California MOONBAT.

Why o why can't you just say, "What a TYPICAL MOONBAT." ???? If this sick woman and her sick parents had immigrated to Georgia instead of California, would you consider her representative of Georgia? Chances are this woman was neither born nor raised in California, and IF she was, it's certain that her parents were not -- they're Iranian immigrants, if I remember correctly. And how much you wanna bet that the doc who implanted the embryos is NOT a Californian, neither born nor raised? Just because somebody moved to California doesn't make them a Californian. The reality is that California is a hell of a lot more geographically and climatically pleasant than Georgia (I've been to Georgia) and so guess what, sparky? PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD MOVE HERE ... gosh, wonder why they don't move to Georgia? *sigh*

And another thing, Doc H -- Free Republic IS CALIFORNIAN from the roots up. As a fifth-generation native Californian, I can tell you the deep conservative, Republican foundation of California. You think Pelosi and Boxer are Californians? They're not -- they moved to California as adults, but were born, raised, and educated in the East. They, like most of the moonbats in this state, brought it with them from somewhere else, moving here after real conservatives made this beautiful state "safe" for them to come in and ruin it.

So before you go shooting your mouth off about "California" moonbats, remember that a whole helluva lotta FReepers, inclucing the founder Jim Robinson, are Californians in the best sense.

And in a sense she’s already won. She’s got the fame she was aiming for.

And there’s no way to stop other “women” from getting this “idea”.

That’s why the way to handle this is to go after the doctors and the institutions they work for. Make them financial liable for the litters they bring into the world.

The fact that there are good people in California (besides the ones you mentioned, my conservative brother and all-around-good-person has lived there for decades) does not invalidate the phrase “typical California moonbat”.

There is something special about the moonbats of California, both in terms of quantity (multitudinous) and quality (exceedingly low).

I’m not denigrating you or my brother or any of the conservatives of the great state of California when I say, for example, San Francisco is the moonbat anus of the universe and Berkeley is its moonbat sphincter. Am I?

I know my brother would have no problem with me saying that.

I’m not sure she wanted “fame” as much as she wanted the money that went with it.

And .. I remember a couple of doctors being interviewed on FOX, and they remarked that in the USA, there are no restrictions by law on how many embryos get implanted (except for ethical standards - which they both agreed had been violated by her doctor), but there are other countries where they already have a law prohibiting more than 2 embryos at a time. Maybe we will have to do that in order to protect mentally unstable people connecting with unsavory doctors.

You're a sensitive fella (or female, can't tell from "Finny"), aren't you? A bit thin-skinned? Is that typical of Californians?

Yeah, the typical San Franciscan is just as normal as the typical Atlantan.

Go ahead and keep believing THAT.

Just as the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or sports shooting, choosing what state to live in is not, or should not be, primarily about being "geographically and climatically pleasant".

I'll choose more FREEDOM over those attributes.

I worked for several years as an active-duty Marine training reservists in Pasadena. Nice geography and climate yes, but more importantly, overly-inflated real estate costs, too much traffic, crime, and too many flakes/nuts/sweetpeas, among other things, to make me want to go back. Just for the fact that the Brady Bunch points out that California is NUMBER ONE (on their website, they point at that California is "The state with the strongest gun laws", unbelievably, ahead of garden spot nanny/Police states like NY, NJ, and MA!), as far as anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment (read that, anti-FREEDOM) laws go - I would never consider living there again (I had no choice as a Marine).

I feel sorry for anyone that is forced, or feels compelled, to live there, and question the judgement of any Conservative who chooses to live there, ESPECIALLY on the grounds that it is "geographically and climatically pleasant"!

I believe CA is too far gone - a lost cause, and from many years back.

Not a slam against Jim (Jim may be a "Californian" in the "best sense", but your knee-jerk reaction suggests you have little or NO sense), or anyone else - even you, Corky (this term of "endearment" from the guy you called "Sparky"). Just my opinion.

As far as people from all over the world moving to Georgia, I could do without them, but they are coming in large numbers, at least to Atlanta.

Nah, you're right, I'd be like your brother. I'm just touchy about how people assume that the moonbats are actual Californians. I could move to Texas, love it, and respect it, but I wouldn't presume to call myself a Texan because it would be false. As for California, it's too bad, really. The moonbats of California are almost always from the Midwest (especially the vegetarians) and the Eastern Seaboard, or their first generation offspring.

I have long thought that the "something special" you refer to is because the native "mystique," if you want to call it that, of California, is that it took an extreme kind of mentality to pioneer the West (not just CA) in the 1800s, and with it came a kind of extreme indifference to the assessment of outsiders, and outsiders in the East have long held the West to be a Land of Hicks, which is fine, but they've always had to make a point of it. Why say anything at all? I rarely remember anyone in California caring one way or the other what the hell New Yorkers did or didn't do. I've also observed that Midwestern transplants seem to subconsciously regard the West to be "no-man's land" with regard to being free to ignore convention and to do shocking things, and so they come here to be vegetarians and such.

I'm just grumpy. It's a sore spot with me. I think it was Mark Levin, or maybe Mark Steyn, who described Liberals as being like locusts -- they move into a state, destroy it with their Liberalism, and then move on to the next. California, a very LARGE state blessed with some of the finest weather and natural beauty on planet Earth, was a sitting duck for Liberals once the braver conservative types made it cool and prosperous.

Yeah, I'm thin-skinned and senstive and cranky, I'll admit it. You would be too if your native state, where you had five generations of pioneer roots, was spit on by people who know virtually zero except Pop Culture Stereotype about what they presume to insult and spit on.

I see you lived in California, in a very small part of Southern California, and a very particular town (George S. Patton grew up and was from Pasadena; I know Pasadena rather well and used to work there). Did you ever get outside of Pasadena and Southern California? Did you ever drive up to Eureka, or Sacramento, or the Sierra Nevadas, or spend time in Fresno or Merced, or go up the Big Sur? Did you ever go out to the high dessert? Or to the oil towns in the coastal mountains? Are you aware that about 90 percent of California land is open agricultural or mountain area? Are you aware that the bay area, San Francisco, has since the mid 1800s been considered the only even slightly civilized place in the West by Western elites?

Really, you serve to reinforce my impression that you have zero idea about what you're talking about when you talk about California. I've driven through Georgia maybe half a dozen times staying on the 95, and been to gorgeous Savannah once or twice. My husband had business in Atlanta many times, and loves the city. But mister, believe me, Georgia at all of its lovely best is about one tenth of what California truly is to folks who know it, in attractive geography and climate. NO WONDER you don't have moonbats moving in. The dif is, I don't claim to understand Georgia the way YOU claim to understand California.

Correction:Are you aware that the bay area, San Francisco, has since the mid 1800s been considered the only even slightly civilized place in the West by Eastern elites?

In other words, the most moonbatty, liberal enclave in California is one that has almost from the start been dominated and had transplants make aspire to "respectability" in culture, etc., in the EAST. There's a reason Boxer and Pelosi moved to San Franisco. They could never have held up their heads among their elite friends settling for barbarian, cultural wasteland Los Angeles.

- As a Marine, did mountain warfare training in the Sierra-Nevadas.

- Hiked and camped (civilian style while stationed there) in the San gabriel mountains.

- Stationed at 29 Palms for a school, and trained in the desert there many times.

- Lived and worked (construction) in Santa-Barbara for a short while with my wife.

- Did amphibious warfare training in San Diego. - Trained and went to rifle/pistol ranges at Pendelton. - Driven all over, never went past Reagan country going north though.

Nice, beautiful places, but...

The Nanny/Police State politicians (even your current, so-called "Republican", is anything but) that run the show, and the MOONBATS that keep voting them in year-after-year, is enough to make me, and many other Conservatives say, No way in hell would I live there.

I'm all about FREEDOM, and even though I don't think I've got enough of it here in GA, I've got a damn sight more than any poor sap in California.

I feel for you and your relatives.

By the way, you haven't seen much of Georgia if you stayed on I-95!

Quite right, my point -- I don't know Georgia well at all. You've not seen much of California, only the lower coastal-oriented half -- Santa Barbara and south is a whole 'nother region from the rest of California (and FWIW, is home to about 16 million people, nearly the entire population of Australia! Just from Santa Barbara to San Diego!). You've experienced maybe about one fifth of the state representing a region very different geographically, economically, agriculturally, and culturally from Northern Coastal, Northern, Central Valley (a true breadbasket for the world), Central Coastal, and the Sierra part of California, each of the other five being very distinct from each other.

Lots of moonbats live here -- but very few of them came from here. All I ask is that you understand that; if you did, or I should say when you do, you will understand that you insult a lot of people when you post as if the moonbats are actual Californians. The relationship between California and moonbats has little to do with Californians and everything to do with where people want to live and act out their fantasy of being "Californian."

THANKS, too, for being a Marine! Meant to say so earlier but am all snippy!! ;^) When I was a kid I thought Marines were jarhead morons -- until I worked as a barmaid at a little dive in San Diego whose clientele was marines and submariners. I came away with a fondness for Marines, high regard for the Marine Corps, and good respect for the often hidden intelligence/smarts of Marines in general. I finally concluded that submariners and Marines are almost always smarter than the average bear, no matter how they may appear.

All said ... I hope someday you're able to, for fun and at your leisure, explore other than Southern California. I have plenty of friends and relatives who've split to escape ... and at least one that's re-experienced a Midwest winter and decided to come back! I always think of California as a wild card. I'm such a pollyanna!

Now if we could only do something about the incoming moonbats ... thinking of one friend and entertainment industry pro who's politically moobatty Liberal ... she's lived here for years but is from Georgia ... *ducking*

You're O.K. Finny. Hang in there amongst all those IMPORTED moonbats.

As far as Marines being smart, I think I am, until my wife sets me straight.

Speaking of her, she wants to visit all sorts of places shes never been, and THINKS she wants to go to. Hawaii, maybe. NYC - no way. California again - maybe we'll have to check it out, and go to some of the places you talk about.

As far as moonbats hailing from GA, they likely were BORN somewhere else, or, if they were born here, are from Midtown Atlanta, Decatur, or some other liberal enclave where you see Obama and "War is not the answer" signs.

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