Posted on 02/07/2009 7:25:23 PM PST by WeatherGuy
Marks from teachers, test scores vary widely: In many cases, ‘A’ student can get ‘F’ on state’s exam
Some metro Atlanta high schools routinely award stellar grades to students who can’t pass standardized tests in the subject, leaving them potentially unprepared for college, a state study has found.
The results could mean teachers are either handing out good marks too easily or not teaching the state curriculum well, experts say.
The study released last week found the End of Course Tests were generally much harder for high school students than classroom work. The gap was most startling for the economics test, which covers basic theory and personal finance. While nearly 36 percent of students failed the test, only about 6 percent failed the class.
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No surprise there.
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This is nothing new. It has been happening in Washington DC for years. A kid shows up studies hard they pass him on, He gets ready for college and finds he hasnt learned and the blames it on the college.
2+2=4 (only if the government will fund part of it)
Back in 1989 I had to take a test for Grad School just in case I needed remedial college classes.
This has been going on for a long time and beyond high school.
Yet the students’ self esteem is sky high.
Who’s buried in Grant’s tomb?
What color are the red lights on a police car?
If Rufus sells you 3 bags of crack and you snitch one, how many bags total do you have?
Lawanda leaves her 3 month old baby alone at her apartment, so she can go out clubbing. When she comes home at 3:00am, the baby has 53 rat bites. How many are the fault of GW Bush?
Yet home schoolers are baselessly called deficient.
Even if our students crapped out on their college admission tests, we’d just be equivalent to our public school crappers.
This is news? The schools have been graduating functionally illiterate students since the 60s.
Teacher’s unions protect incompetent teachers and pursue leftist political agendas with union dues.
The scandle is that every single politician, local, state and federal, know exactly what is happening. They do nothing about it. If you think about it ignorant voters are easier to manipulate.
Illiterate and ignorant Americans voted for Obama. Do you think that he will try to improve the schools?
I hope you are not laboring under the impression that Lawanda and Rufus are the only students smoking crack and being irresponsible. If you do I suggest that you visit your local trailer park.
I assure you that you will find no shortage of redneck lowlifes smoking crack, getting drunk and attacking each other.
The bottom line is that the schools are not educating children generally. There may be some exceptions, but our society has degenerated into the cess pool it is because of the decision so called educators made a long time ago to brainwash instead of educate.
You mean those same public schools that teach global warming, gay studies and Malcolm X before geometry, Shakespeare and the American Revolution?
You mean when my mother-in-law worked on staff at CSU-Bakersfield that nearly 25% of students could not READ or WRITE at the High School level and needed taxpayer-funded remedial English, math and social studies WHEN THEY HAD DIPLOMAS.
You mean those people?
They had Obama stickers on their car and are awaiting hope and change from a government lifelong job given to them because of their skin pigmentation or a box they check on an application that moves them ahead because the system deems that to be “fair” irrespective of ability.
You are beginning to see how much the Left needs dummies; they need to trade perceived “charity” and “helping the little: guy with a sandwich...for a mere vote in November. The Ayers group of Marxists have successfully infiltrated all of our academia and as schools turn into war zones from illegals, rednecks and generational ghetto dwellers, the Left screams for “more funding”.
Let me be anthropological about this, one and for all, you cannot buy intellect and no Federal or State program can enhance IQ.
The Teachers Union Mafia strikes again.
Funny thing about grades and grading, at least from my perspective:
If you fail too many students, you get crawled across the carpet because you are not doing your job.
If you pass too many students, who then fail the required state mandated tests, you are crawled across the carpet for not doing your job.
But, you have to hold the students accountable, as long as you don’t hold them accountable.
But, to be reasonable, most of what is told from the administrators comes from much higher up. The idea being that if a principal cannot get his teachers to do the job, the principal can be replaced and find someone who can. I have heard this first hand from an assistant principal, following a meeting with the superintendent.
So, what do you do? I am still waiting to hear how to deal with non-compliance if you think home-educating them is a viable choice, and I really would like to know how, if that is the case, you are going to get those same parents to buy into a boarding school.
They have been schooled but not educated.
Chesapeake parents take stand over teen's grades
I wonder if threats of similar punishment is why our daughter consistently remains on the honor roll? LOL!!!
First, the students who fail the 3rd, 5th, and 8th grade tests they are supposed to pass according to No Child Left Behind get passed anyway, so they're in high school unable to read or do math.
Secondly, the state set the pass levels really low on those tests anyway. For example, you only have to be working at a mid-4th grade level to pass the 8th grade test. (Yes, I have documentation for that, but it's in the middle of a very long pdf article). So even the students who aren't socially committee promoted aren't necessarily working at grade level.
Next, the Georgia Performance Standards urge that teachers use a variety of "real world assessments" instead of just "paper-and-pencil" tests, so that students with a variety of skills (i.e., those who can't read and do math on grade level) can be successful.
In addition, the state applies a "curve" to EOCT grades, which probably vary by subject - I'm only familiar with those in science, but in science, a student must get fewer than half of the questions correct to receive a score of "70" from the state, and a student who gets 65% of the questions right will get a grade of "90" from the state - in other words, any student who makes a D or better on the EOCT "exceeds expectations".
Finally, the original plan was that a student had to pass the EOCT to receive credit in the course, but the General Assembly decided that was unfair, and legislated that the EOCT would count as 15% of the final course grade. That means that students who already have a strong passing grade - particularly seniors taking economics - don't necessarily have a real incentive to do well on the EOCT, because many can fail and still keep their original A or B.
Those of you who enjoy research might enjoy picking apart the study upon which this article is based, which was done by a college professor, but would not have earned a passing grade in any graduate-level education research course I have ever taken...
I like that!
Sad, but true.
I've also noticed that the high schools get penalized when students who have been socially promoted from the elementary and middle schools without the skills needed to succeed in high school end up failing and/or dropping out.
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