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CNN BREAKING- Tenative Deal Reached For $780B PORKULUS-Susan Collins folded!!!
2-6-09 | TCRLAF

Posted on 02/06/2009 2:45:31 PM PST by tcrlaf

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To: Gene Eric

>> Collins: It’s a bipartisan bill.

No it’s not. 3 RINOs alone is NOT bipartisan.


341 posted on 02/06/2009 4:37:56 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: John W

“Does she always speak this way?”

yes..she likes to act like Kathryn Hepburn.


342 posted on 02/06/2009 4:38:16 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Hanna548

All, I haven’t posted in years but I keep seeing a silver lining here. The vote (though the MSM won’t portray it as such) was nearly party-line. When this puts the sinking economy totally under water, who will the Dims blame? The Obammunists will be shown for what they are...


343 posted on 02/06/2009 4:38:20 PM PST by dcgst4
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To: Vicki

She said she couldn’t vote for a bloated bill, but she is going to vote for a bloated bill.


344 posted on 02/06/2009 4:38:26 PM PST by RatsDawg
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To: tcrlaf
Collins called this pork bipartisan. Three RINOs have hijacked the party and that's not exaggerating. Time to kick these idiots out.
345 posted on 02/06/2009 4:39:22 PM PST by tobyhill (Obama gets no free pass from Free Republic!)
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To: penelopesire

She has an annoying voice.


346 posted on 02/06/2009 4:39:27 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (Sometimes, I guess there's just not enough bags of popcorn.)
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To: tobyhill

She is talking about the 110 Billion cut!

I think its time we cut her job!


347 posted on 02/06/2009 4:40:29 PM PST by RatsDawg
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To: Gene Eric

Says it’s not a Republican bill or a Democrat bill...OH REALLY???

Guess Collin’s is setting up the MSM soundbite for tomorrow.


348 posted on 02/06/2009 4:40:40 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: Danae
The is just the first step in the WAR ON CAPITALISM.

This GOVERNMENT STIMULUS Bill is only the first step in what will be a huge, gigantic increase in Federal Government employees.

When it comes to a huge, expensive, intrusive, controlling, regulating, bureaucratic, monster-sized government,,,

YOU AIN'T SEE NOTHING YET!!

349 posted on 02/06/2009 4:40:51 PM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: Darkwolf377

“Oh, great, now when it flops CNN will repeat ad nauseum “the bipartisan stimulus bill” and “the bill, which had support from BOTH parties”...

And thats exactly what the libtards will do. They will say “it`s not our fault because Republicans supported it too!” I wonder how much money it took for the bitch to be bought off.


350 posted on 02/06/2009 4:41:01 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: tiredoflaundry

Hell, Susie, there won’t be any money left for the regular appropriations process.


351 posted on 02/06/2009 4:41:07 PM PST by John W
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To: tobyhill

she’s very proud of that 100 billion cut as if $100B is like 500B.
dumbass


352 posted on 02/06/2009 4:41:46 PM PST by hyperconservative (Porkulus must die!)
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To: PhiKapMom

KNEW IT!! She is touting her cut of 100 Billion after the senate ran it up 100 Billion so she could ‘cut’ it.

IT IS STILL HIGHER THAN THE HOUSE BILL!

It’s all a big orchestrated lie meant to give her cover.


353 posted on 02/06/2009 4:42:25 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: stockstrader
HUSSEIN CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS!

Let him. Let him own it completely.

Then, when the results are in, he'll be out in 4 years.

354 posted on 02/06/2009 4:42:36 PM PST by paulycy ("I WON! OBEY ME!!!")
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To: stockstrader

Its not the first step, this has been planned since 1966.

How did we get here?
1) In 1977 the Community Reinvestment bill passes a democrat Congress and is signed by Jimmy Carter. This opened federal dollars to organizations like ACORN.
2) ACORN is the brainchild of a couple of very evil people named Cloward and his wife Piven. They taught their theory to William Rathke and he took it from there. They stated that the best way to take down a capitalist society was to flood the government welfare rolls with massive numbers of poor people. Ask Rudy Giuliani, he dealt with it in New York. Because America was good at being resilient and creating wealth, that idea alone failed, so they changed tactics. They expanded to include MORTGAGES in 1992. They went for the Banking Industry instead.
3) In 1992 Federal Housing Enterprises Regulatory Reform Act of 1992 is passed by a Democrat congress. This gave lots of money to ACORN and also MANDATED to banks, BY LAW that they had to ignore the standard practices of good lending, in other words, you no longer needed to prove income, have a down payment, created the 80/20 mortgages system, and oh also, if you were black it was even more closely enforced, particularly by lawyers that worked for... ACORN, like say Barak Obama? Yea, exactly. So banks are now FORCED to make mortgages they KNOW are doomed to fail.
You see, they use the Mantra, well its for the Poor... you have to help the poor.... its just so SELFISH and so WRONG not to help the poor.....
Uh hua. Sound familiar?
They knew what they were doing. They were loading a great big enema is what they were doing. Keep in mind these people are PATIENT, they are willing to wait 8 years 20 years, 40 years, to further their goals when they get shut down by a Republican Congress or Presidency or both, they just wait, and train up new recruits into their ideology, which is how they created That Arab in the White house named Obama(he is 6% black 50% white and 44% Arab). But as soon as they get a congress loaded with their followers, and one in the white House, which is what we have now, BLAMO we get Porculus.
But before we even get to Porculus, you have to take into account why we are even at this point.
The Mortgage Meltdown. When all these ACORN fed poor people started having trouble holding onto their houses, they began defaulting, surely not something those people wanted to have happen, but the creators behind CRA and the 1992 Bill wanted it. Oh yes they wanted it. They stacked the deck to make CERTAIN it would happen. Why? Simple. Homeowner pays the bank for his house, bank pays other banks THEY borrowed money from to make the homeowners loan possible. Bank 3 buys up bunches and bunches of these loans and sells them to investors here and over seas, after all they are guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the favorites of Democrats and the ripest fattest shiniest cherry in the Democrats Golden Parachute tree. The Government of the United States was guaranteeing the loans, would make the PAYMENTS on the loans if anything “bad” happened. Well, that’s all great till the cost of living goes up and all those adjustable rate mortgages start kicking in. At that point the default rate can and did go right through the roof, in the tens, no hundreds of Millions. Banks had no payment monies coming in, they could not make the payments on their own debts. The river of money suddenly STOPS and banks start failing, they have no money, and no one is lending money, and the House that Jack built falls apart.
DELIBERATELY
Bear Sterns got a Gov. Bailout from the treasury in Aug of 08, Lehman Brothers fails in September 08 and gets NO bailout (the Treasury recognized there was no way they could bail out 1 in every 5 Banks in the United States, let alone the world), and the entire world Financial market just stopped in its tracks.
The United States Government can’t make the payments either, and so we got the 700 Billion Dollar Bailout, which of course, does nothing to fix the problem because banks realize that in order to function they have to have liquid cash on hand, so they KEPT it, and gave NOTHING to the homeowners who were suddenly faced with raising their kids in their cars. There really isn’t anything else they could have done, if they gave the money to the homeowners, they would have still failed, because they only had debts and no way to pay them. Catch 22. This point will be debated in history books for decades to come, right now, no one really knows the full outcome of that, other than it did not work as intended. Meanwhile, homeowners continue to lose their houses and the downward spiral continues.
Wow, talk about a complete disregard for poor people! Talk about setting up a way to make poor people poorer, and increase the number of poor people, well, you could not have planned a better way to do it. But then, this was PLANNED.
Cloward and Piven won.
Businesses start losing business, because Banks aren’t making loans to create new business. They start having problems making Payroll, and so start laying off employees, thereby INCREASING the number of Mortgage failures, AND increasing the demand on the State and Federal unemployment coffers. Now we have a great big GIANORMOUS enema just waiting for us.
That enema is called Porculus, the “Stimulus” bill that will INCREASE the National Debt, thereby REDUCING the ability of the Government to meet its debt obligations (the more debt you have the harder it is to make all the payments), and increasing the likely hood of bringing down the entire Capitalistic system. Oh and will “force” the Government to increase taxes, thereby making us individually just that much poorer. (”Oops can’t afford Heath insurance! Better Nationalize that because we HAVE to....”)
How?
Because once those new renovations for this that and the other thing are done, once that road is repaved, the jobs that it temporarily created DISAPPEAR, they are GONE, because the job is done. So 18 months after the monstrosity is passed, we are right back where we started from, only 1 trillion FURTHER in debt.
But the lawn at the ACORN office looks GREAT!
Meanwhile we get force fed by the Media that it’s GOOD to help the poor, it’s our Obligation to take care of “Those who cannot help themselves”, that Nationalizing (insert industry here) is an absolute necessity because this (industry here) is absolutely necessary! We can’t let THAT fail. Health care for all Americans seems to me to be the most likely thing they will Nationalize first, it’s the easiest to sell really.
When you look at the entire scenario from a Macro perspective, it is obvious that the entire scenario was created deliberately. The individual pieces of the puzzle change over time, from this Liberal president to that, from one leader of the House to the next, from one chairman of the Senate Finance Committee to the next Liberal ACORN swilling sellout to another, the underlying strategy does not change, only the players do, and they build upon the works of those who came before.
I don’t know that we can stop this at this point in our history. The juggernaut is SO HUGE, that I don’t know that it can be stopped. It seems America is out to kill Capitalism, the very thing which made her great to begin with. In the process, we the people pay the price, and its getting higher and more personal by the instant.
Democrat voters who made it all happen are happily snorting up their Kool aide packets, why dilute it with water anyway? Astoundingly, they seem happy about it!
The biggest murderers in history are those who claim to help the poor with one hand while flaying them alive with the other, Socialists. I say to you, you are nothing short of EVIL.
I pray for America, that her leaders will recognize what’s happened and at least TRY to stop it. In the name of anything held sacred at all, if they have an atom of Morality and responsibility left, they will address the REAL problem! I pray they find the fortitude to STOP making it worse! Because that’s exactly what Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Barak Obama, Chris Dodd and every other Socialist in our government is trying to do. It’s up to those not in on this horrific monstrosity to STOP it! It’s not only a moral obligation now, it’s a moral imperative. The lives of millions here and around the world are either going to be forced to take that enema, or YOU will obliterate it. PLEASE OBLITERATE IT! Our lives are in your hands. PLEASE don’t screw this up!


355 posted on 02/06/2009 4:42:44 PM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: All

The only thing that was “cut” from this porker was maybe it’s tail!


356 posted on 02/06/2009 4:42:51 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (Sometimes, I guess there's just not enough bags of popcorn.)
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To: chessplayer

Bookmark for later. Going out to dinner while I still can afford it, that is if I can eat after watching this bag of barf lie through her teeth.


357 posted on 02/06/2009 4:43:01 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: stockstrader

The GoP needed to expunge all of the GOP House and Senate Leadership....same old crew. Collins just gives the GOP cover to vote for big govt.

If they truely believed and understood how devastating of a bill this was...they would have offered Colins perks, jobs,,,whatever it took to get her not to bolt.

Bottom line...”JUST WORDS FROM THE GOP”

I WILL do all I can to see these GOP posers to get beaten...if it takes 8 yrs of Obama, so be it.
F the GOP.

Our Republic will survive Obama for 2 terms or it isn’t worth saving.


358 posted on 02/06/2009 4:43:10 PM PST by rbmillerjr ("Society...is a blessing, but government, in its best state, is but a necessary evil."..Thomas Paine)
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To: mplsconservative

>> Guess Collin’s is setting up the MSM soundbite for tomorrow.

Yeah, ‘targeted’ soundbites.


359 posted on 02/06/2009 4:43:35 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: tiredoflaundry

Reparations.


360 posted on 02/06/2009 4:43:37 PM PST by Crawdad (Barack Obama hates black people.)
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