Here's why not:
Posted on 02/05/2009 5:37:48 PM PST by Westlander
To be honest - if I worked for IBM, I’d be getting out of this country as fast as I could!!!!! (or for at least the next 4 to 8 yrs)
I’m sure IBM will offer a good moving package, they usually do!
If true, I now have the same regard for IBM that I have for Microsoft, GM, and the rest.
Absolute scam that IBM is doing....any American who takes that deal is stupid....
And chances are they will not get a visa to work in some of those countries...because they will take jobs away from their citizens. Most countries are not going to let Americans take jobs away
Why not move to India? I’m sure IBM can see the hand writing on the wall re: future tax hikes. As do some of their employees.
Not a bad deal for single nerds to go there, get themselves a quality Czech bride, and then come back after the recession blows over.
Here's why not:
It all depends. A friend of mine who worked for Dell’s IT dept got downsized in his department which eventually moved to the Philippines. He quickly applied wrote a letter to someone higher up to sub-manage the call center there due to his expertise and he actually got it.
In the Philippines, he is “housed” at one of the best hi rise condos in the financial district, has a driver, maid and answers only to Michael Dell’s circle. One of his major gripe is the screwed up time difference (14 hrs advance of us and midnight here is high afternoon there the next day).
IBM is no longer an American company. It has more overseas workers than in the US and is exporting even more jobs.
Workers being laid off will not have moving expenses covered if they go to India, and India would not probably give them work visas anyway.
IBM’s CEO and execs continue to get fat bonuses.
At one time IBM was the pride of American labor. It’s wages were the highest, its benefits unmatched, and its concern for the workers unparalleled. If a union organizer showed up, it was the employees who chased him off. It never had a layoff, even during the depression.
Now it is one of the slimiest, empoyee-unfriendly companies around. Twenty years ago IBM was heralded as one of the seven best companies in America. All seven are now down the tubes.
“Adulterous IBM employees stoned to death.”
I guess you haven’t seen the Mercedes and the Lexuses pulling into the gated community in Mumbai.
Yes, well there is that.
But the entire country is not like that
And if more IBMs move there to escape USA predatory taxing, they may look a lot better soon and we could start looking like that.
One big benefit is that you can work for lower wages - even for India, get to read scripts off of a computer screen and learn how to say “I am standing beside myself”.
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Parts of America......
Keep an open mind.
As someone who was just effected by the IBM “resource action”, the only place I’m hearing about this is from the media NOT within IBM. I think this is simply rhetoric.
I am an ex-IBMer. I have seen IBM shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly with moving jobs overseas. But, the people pushing these jobs offshore only are looking at the short-term beans, and not the long term health of the company. I am still in touch with a lot of folks in (not-so-big) blue. It has turned into a hell-hole to work. Once upon a time I bled blue, and in return they sold me like a slave. Let IBM be an example of what happens when the chickens come home to roost...
How long ago did you leave IBM? What division?
And twenty years ago, IBM was broke. Their fortunes started going downhill, and by 1990, they had to start selling off the profitable divisions in order to keep going.
The company is profitable again, and if they need to move more operations overseas in order to keep going, I think it's sad, but I applaud them for doing so. And the way our tax policies are going, it wouldn't surprise me to see them move their headquarters to some more accommodating country.
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