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To: thefrankbaum; Ravnagora; Bokababe; maher
The news is terrible; I mean especially the reporting. The purported connection between the Latin Mass and conservative /reactionary views is absurd. I love the Missa Tridentina, the Mass as ordained at the Council of Trent. (This of course also gave us the murderous Counter-Reformation.) Esthetically the good liturgy is the Missa cantata [sung]— High Mass; not Missa lecta / low Mass [read, not sung]. Ratzinger has a wimpy singing voice, by the way. — Why Vat-II partisans prefer looking into the celebrant's face is weird. A brocaded chasuble back is more inspiring; the platoon leader faces in the same direction as the troops.

Papa Ratzinger’s choice of moniker is noteworthy, but overlooked. His predecessor Benedict XV was a huge figure in the outbreak of World War I. In Vienna Kaiser Franz-Josef was not hot to attack. The Hungarians at the outset were against war. The war party in Vienna was not yet quite in total charge, but the hawks got the pope's blessing to annihilate “schismatic” Orthodox Serbia. Far more than Gavrilo Princip, Ben Fifteen started the war.

Pope-criticism in the US not PC. Go to Catholic countries and you'll find criticism is in flower. Fast forward: Benedict XVI was a dhimmi for backtracking in the face of the jihadis It was perfectly correct to quote Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus on Mohammed spreading his religion by the sword. Doesn't the Koran divide the world into the Land of the Sword and the Land of Submission — Islam? Who's in Denial? YouTube the output of the mujahedin themselves. And lay a flower on the tomb of the Dutch film director VanGogh. On gas chambers, even Deutsche Welle (roughly “Voice of Germany) has stupid American news-readers talking about the gas chambers as the only murder weapon. If 6 million were not gassed, it doesn't follow that 6 million were not killed — by gas, hunger & disease (inseparable), bullets etc. The gas chambers were ordered dismantled (for eventual later use) by the IIIrd Reich. The first to die in them were Red Army POWS, if I recall rightly. Germany had enough Zyklon-B left over after the Jewish Final Solution to kill 20 million more people. Who was next? —Poles, Russians, that's who.

29 posted on 02/04/2009 8:24:27 AM PST by maher (Benedict XVI (and Benedict XV))
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What? So you oppose the counter-reformation, don’t like the way BXVI sings, the NO Mass, blame BXV for WWI, believe there isn’t enough criticism of the Pope in the US, and see the “next step” of Holocaust to include Poles and Slavs, who of course were the first real victims? Is that a fair summation of your post?


32 posted on 02/04/2009 8:31:33 AM PST by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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