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Which Way to the Camps?
Modern Conservative ^ | February 3, 2009 | Gina L. Diorio

Posted on 02/03/2009 12:43:05 PM PST by history_48

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To: bicyclerepair

I stopped by my Walmart (this is the one where the father & son made the
mistake of trying to cut in front of the off-duty cop) and they were flat out
of .45 ACP and 9 mil. Shelves looked like Mother Hubbard’s cupboard.


41 posted on 02/03/2009 1:33:08 PM PST by tumblindice ("Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?")
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To: Tublecane
Let’s say they decided to use the army to deliberately round up large segments of the population for whatever reason. This plan would not be enough. They’d need bigger camps. Plus, unlike European Jewry, we have guns and are willing to use them.

And there are 60,000,000 of us...not 6,000,000. They'd need camps the size of Montana to restrain that many people.

42 posted on 02/03/2009 1:34:09 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Republicans believe every day is July 4th . Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Reagan)
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To: editor-surveyor
everything they foretold has come to pass in spades.

As a former card carrying Bircher, from a family who used to work directly with Gary Allen, I have to laugh at this. They may have a thirty thousand foot general prediction that came true, but the details and players have been changing and getting it wrong for decades. They kept changing the predictions and players to suit the current era they made the predictions. The archetype controllers have changed, from the trilaterals, to the CFR, to the 'Rockfellers and the Reds', they rewrite their predictions posthaste to appear more accurate to the time.

43 posted on 02/03/2009 1:35:18 PM PST by mnehring
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To: DoughtyOne
“To absolutely ruin most people these days, all you would have to do is incarcerate them in one of these camps for about 90 days.

Their job would be gone. Their credit would be gone. Their home could be considered to have been abandoned.

You wouldn’t even have to convict them of anything. If they didn’t have substantial funds in their bank, or stocks to fall back on, they would be toast.”

Enough with the tinfoil hat hysterics. Nothing like that could EVER happen in the good old US of A. I mean, there'd have to be a precedent, right?

Executive Order 9066: The President Authorizes Japanese Relocation

In an atmosphere of World War II hysteria, President Roosevelt, encouraged by officials at all levels of the federal government, authorized the internment of tens of thousands of American citizens of Japanese ancestry and resident aliens from Japan. Roosevelt’s Executive Order 9066, dated February 19, 1942, gave the military broad powers to ban any citizen from a fifty- to sixty-mile-wide coastal area stretching from Washington state to California and extending inland into southern Arizona. The order also authorized transporting these citizens to assembly centers hastily set up and governed by the military in California, Arizona, Washington state, and Oregon. Although it is not well known, the same executive order (and other war-time orders and restrictions) were also applied to smaller numbers of residents of the United States who were of Italian or German descent. For example, 3,200 resident aliens of Italian background were arrested and more than 300 of them were interned. About 11,000 German residents—including some naturalized citizens—were arrested and more than 5000 were interned. Yet while these individuals (and others from those groups) suffered grievous violations of their civil liberties, the war-time measures applied to Japanese Americans were worse and more sweeping, uprooting entire communities and targeting citizens as well as resident aliens.

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http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5154

FDR. Democrat.

(WHEN WE RETURN AFTER THE BREAK: "THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND INDIAN REMOVAL: WHY TITLE INSURANCE IS A GOOD THING." (/sarc)

44 posted on 02/03/2009 1:35:55 PM PST by shoutingandpointing
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To: mkjessup

Yes, I have read the damn bill, it is not a concentration camp.. jeeze.


45 posted on 02/03/2009 1:35:59 PM PST by mnehring
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To: shoutingandpointing

LOL, good call. I don’t think folks realize how easy it would be for the President to come up with some great sounding explanation to run cover for this type of thing.


46 posted on 02/03/2009 1:38:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: mkjessup; All
>You'll probably be 'helping' the authorities identify pesky conservatives who 'need' to be 'temporarily' placed in those camps during a time of 'crisis'


47 posted on 02/03/2009 1:38:52 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: history_48

This is for economic refugees of Great Depression II. The government wants some place to put up to fifty million unemployed and unemployable people before they turn carjacking into a national pastime. This is the end result scenario that Paulson & Co. were scaring Congress with before the first bailout bill passed.


48 posted on 02/03/2009 1:39:04 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Jack of all Trades
LOL! It was earlier than 98, for some of it. Reno's Antiterrorism Act was ‘93 iirc, and was the basis for Patriot Act (and when the left complained about the horrible usurpation of rights in Patriot, they invariably picked carryover items from Reno's bill).

A Dem is in the WH, so we are afraid of repealing the 22nd amendment, camps, FEMA or otherwise, gun control, euthanasia, abortion clinics in high schools, nationalizing banks and oil, and have you noticed all the UFO threads?

49 posted on 02/03/2009 1:40:34 PM PST by DBrow
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To: history_48

Camps! Hot puppydogs, I love camps! Are there gonna be campfire singalongs? Wienie roasts? Say...uh...what’s with the razor wire?


50 posted on 02/03/2009 1:42:46 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: theFIRMbss

In a month, we’ll have folks start talking about the FEMA coffins and railroad cars...


51 posted on 02/03/2009 1:43:06 PM PST by mnehring
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To: history_48
We still have to resolve the issue of the nefarious contrails before we rant about this. SmileyCentral.com
52 posted on 02/03/2009 1:43:27 PM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: shoutingandpointing
Dog gone it Shouting, stop that!

You start point out precedent and you're going to upset the sleepers.

53 posted on 02/03/2009 1:44:26 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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To: verity

Don’t forget water fluoridation and the reptilian overlords.

This actually could be a decent issue to discuss and oppose, but everyone gets so paranoid about concentration camps, it makes us look like loons.


54 posted on 02/03/2009 1:48:08 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Jack of all Trades
Shades of FR circa 1998. This place was littered with posts about FEMA concentration camps, secret lists of individuals to be rounded up, mysterious caravans of UN vehicles and unmarked helicopters around the country, secret patriotic factions within the government trying to expose tyrannical conspiracies, etc, etc, etc.

Contrails. You forgot the contrails. ;-)

Yeah, I remember that stuff, too. It made me hesitate to sign up.

55 posted on 02/03/2009 1:51:07 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: history_48

Any WWII Japanese ancestry FReepers out there care to comment?


56 posted on 02/03/2009 1:51:16 PM PST by j_tull (Jeremiah Wright's prayer has been answered. God has damned America.)
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To: MahatmaGandu
Oh, who was that operating the tanks at Waco in 1993 and killing women and children? Oh, right, that was the US Army.

Actually the first time was way before that:

The Bonus Army March

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57 posted on 02/03/2009 1:52:32 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. It's too late for the pebbles to vote.)
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To: Explodo
The only reason it won;t happen here is we have a well armed populace...and a military that will not kill it’s citzens.

(The Germans were well-armed until Hitler took away their guns. All of us need to read this: http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id14.html)

I guarantee the firestorm battle that would occur if citizens were forcably rounded up would be enough to give any govermental body pause.

(Really? History proves otherwise:
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“So here were two separate roads taken by German citizens. Most Germans took the road that Traudl Junge took – supporting their government in time of deep crisis. A few Germans took the road that Hans and Sophie Scholl took – opposing their government despite the deep crisis facing their nation.

Why the difference? Why did some Germans support the Hitler regime while others opposed it?

Each American should first ask himself what he would have done if he had been a German citizen during the Hitler regime. Would you have supported your government or would you have opposed it, not only during the 1930s but also after the outbreak of World War II?

After all, it’s one thing to look at Nazi Germany retrospectively and from the vantage point of an outside citizen who has heard since childhood about the death camps and of Hitler’s monstrous nature. We look at those grainy films of Hitler delivering his bombastic speeches and our automatic reaction is that we would have never supported the man and his political party. But it’s quite another thing to place one’s self in the shoes of an ordinary German citizen and ask, “What would I have done?”

What we often forget is that many Germans did not support Hitler and the Nazis at the start of the 1930s. Keep in mind that in the 1932 presidential election, Hitler received only 30.1 percent of the national vote. In the subsequent run-off election, he received only 36.8 percent of the vote. It wasn’t until President Hindenburg appointed him as chancellor in 1933 that Hitler began consolidating power.

Among the major factors that motivated Germans to support Hitler during the 1930s was the tremendous economic crisis known as the Great Depression, which had struck Germany as hard as it had the United States and other parts of the world. What did many Germans do in response to the Great Depression? They did the same thing that many Americans did – they looked for a strong leader to get them out of the economic crisis.”
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http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=23001

Besides...I don;t the National guard would send citizens off to death camps...nor re-education camps for that matter.

(Are you familiar with Stalin's army? His NKVD, Politruks, and Commissars? That Russian troops—often sent into battle unarmed for lack of rifles and ammunition were shot by their own officers if they attempted to fall back when they met superior forces?

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“Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo, explained the strategy:
Why, of course, the people don’t want war.... Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=23001

58 posted on 02/03/2009 1:52:36 PM PST by shoutingandpointing
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To: Lurker

Thank you.


59 posted on 02/03/2009 1:53:37 PM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
This is for economic refugees of Great Depression II. The government wants some place to put up to fifty million unemployed and unemployable people before they turn carjacking into a national pastime.

It could well be the opposite - safe locations for federal agency offices, employee housing, etc. Sort of a modern twist on the "royal garrison" concept.

Google "ICS" and "Unified Command".

60 posted on 02/03/2009 1:56:10 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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