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To: Las Vegas Ron
First of all, redacting a document is altering it, therefore it becomes invalid.

You are completely missing my point. A JPEG image of an official document is not an official document. It is not an official document before you alter it, after you alter it, or if you translate it into Klingon. Altering a digital image does not affect its status as an official document, because it never was an official document.

I really don't know how to make that any clearer.

Second, the cert number is a means to validate the said document, that number leads to no more information then is contained on the document that is submitted as proof.

Accepting for the sake of argument that that is true -- I don't know one way or the other -- it's irrelevant. My assertion was that someone believed that the certificate number was something that ought to be obscured before the image was posted to the Web; that caution may have been unnecessary.

Even if it is real, what possible information is on a BC that is private or at least that the public doesn't have a right to know?

The parents' social security numbers, for starters.

261 posted on 02/04/2009 10:29:33 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError; Las Vegas Ron

ROE:”The parents’ social security numbers, for starters.”

I don’t know if social security numbers are typical for BCs issued today but I know they were not put on BCs back in the 60’s. You can even reference post #155 on this thread for a BC that was issued in Hawaii in the 60’s. I see no entry for social security numbers.

My wife and I were both born in the 60’s and neither of our BCs have social security numbers (and we were born in different states).


262 posted on 02/05/2009 4:50:18 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: ReignOfError; Las Vegas Ron

And let me point out again, that questioning the decision to black out the cert number on the scan is pointless. There are also photographs and it is not blacked out there.


264 posted on 02/05/2009 6:12:58 AM PST by mlo
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To: ReignOfError
You are completely missing my point. A JPEG image of an official document is not an official document

Breaking it down to the "nitty gritty", I agree.

If we except this as true, then the document presented proffers absolutely no evidentiary value as to his Constitutional eligibility, as we just decided it's not an "official document".

The parents' social security numbers, for starters.

I was born 6 months before Obama, both of my parent's full names, occupations, current address, employers name and address, doctors name, hospital etc. but no SS #

I think we can both agree the cert number was redacted so the validity of the document could not be verified.

265 posted on 02/05/2009 6:47:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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