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To: BykrBayb; wagglebee
I don't see that any posts have been removed on this thread. Is this the photo you're talking about?

Well I stand corrected then. When I refreshed the thread however, I would swear to you that the photos were gone with the “comment removed by moderator”.

Now I don’t see any “comment removed by moderator” on this thread so either it was my error or the mod changed his/her mind or was over ruled. In any case:

Lisa McPherson was started and dehydrated to death, just like Terri was. It DOES NOT take any sort of medical expertise to dehydrate someone to death, what it does take is a complete lake of human decency.

No, the Lisa McPherson case is not “just like” the Shiavo case. Lisa McPherson was denied medical care by her Scientologist handlers. She was mentally ill and not in a coma or vegetative state. She was denied proper medical care and was abused and starved to death by some religious wackos.

Posting pictures of Lisa McPherson and drawing comparisons to Terri Shiavo because of the similarly of their physical appearance is rather disingenuous.

My mother in-law, after many years of suffering a slow but progressive terminal illness and infirmity and declining mental capacity and her refusal to eat, was admitted to a long term medical nursing home. Every day that my husband and I visited with her, which was almost daily, she told us how much pain she was in and how tired she was and how much she looked forward to going to Heaven and being reunited with Jesus and her parents and brothers and sisters.

After she suffered a stroke and lapsed into a deep vegetative state, it was actually her doctors who insisted she be placed on a feeding tube and we agreed with that decision at the time.

However, after six years of her being on a feeding tube, being in a vegetative state, moved from one facility to another and another, I can tell you that at the time of her death, my mother in law looked just as bad if not worse than the photos of Lisa McPherson.

We did have a DNR order, one that was ignored by the hospital the first time her heart stopped, resulting in the breaking of several of her ribs and then a bout of pneumonia that put her on a respirator for many weeks.

When she finally did die, while we were saddened by her passing, we were also relived for the end of her suffering. The last years of her life, extended beyond what was merciful or medically reasonable with a feeding tube, resulted in her being in a rigid fetal position, her skin paper thin and full of lesions and abrasions.

The director of the funeral home told us that he had to literally break her bones in order to be able to place her into a coffin. Fortunately that was the last indignity she had to endure.

I am pro-life and against euthanasia or medically assisted suicide. But I am also against prolonging the life of the physical body when it is against the wishes of the patient, their family and medically irresponsible.
76 posted on 02/07/2009 6:09:22 PM PST by Caramelgal (My employer had a room for us to watch the Obamination. I, on the other hand had actual work to do.)
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To: Caramelgal; BykrBayb
Posting pictures of Lisa McPherson and drawing comparisons to Terri Shiavo because of the similarly of their physical appearance is rather disingenuous.

The pictures are posted SOLELY to show what a murder by dehydration looks like.

78 posted on 02/07/2009 6:12:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Caramelgal; BykrBayb; wagglebee
...But I am also against prolonging the life of the physical body when it is against the wishes of the patient, their family and medically irresponsible.

It's easy to play God... and have all the answers.

God makes the call, but we just want to hang around (or our family wants it, selfishly, without faith!)! With modern technology, we can easily keep a body warm... but... is that what God wants? Does the ability to keep a body warm make them whole? Is it God's will we are trying to defeat?

I have a "living will", but have made my daughter assure me that I can be left to die. I know in Whom I believe, and am persuaded that He will keep me... Are you? Do you have faith in a life beyond this one? Is God sovereign?

Inquiring minds want to know!

89 posted on 02/07/2009 9:01:08 PM PST by WVKayaker ("There are no facts, only interpretations." -Nietze)
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