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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

As I said, do feel free to provide some equally credible material that states explicitly that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being.

Railing against credible material with nothing more than your opinion is the act of a flat earther. If it is true that unborns in the early stage of development are something other than living human beings, you should have no problem at all providing at least as much credible reference material to me as I have provided to you.

Good luck. You may as well be trying to prove that the moon is made of cheese.


45 posted on 02/17/2009 8:40:34 AM PST by N2Gems
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To: N2Gems
As I said, do feel free to provide some equally credible material that states explicitly that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being.

Not to mention that I don't know why you're asking the above, you did not answer my previous query, which, in itself, was asked about several days ago.

Your previous post has no mention of the processes leading up to gastrulation, nor does it mention anything about how long it takes for the father's genetic material to combine fully with the mother's. I stated that (from the WiKi article, which has a citation link, which also happens to be where you sourced the material for your earlier post) the genetic material from the sperm hasn't completed combination with that from the mother until the 16th day. This is an important distinction because only after the genetics of the offspring is determined, will it be capable of being considered an individual.

I should have clarified this in my previous post, that your earlier post didn't answer what was argued a couple of days ago, but this should suffice.

By the way, a zygote has unique DNA.

This was not the argument. The argument was revolving around when the father's genes have completed involving themselves with those of the mother's. Just the entry of the sperm into the egg, isn't the instant when an individual is genetically determined.

Citation: Moore, K. L. & T. V. M. Persaud (2003). The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology. W. B. Saunders Company. ISBN 0-7216-6974-3.

If you have access to a journal, perhaps you can look it up. I don't, for now.

47 posted on 02/17/2009 9:43:22 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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