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To: Tempest
The bad loans are about 1.2 trillion dollars of the problem. The CDO's is the 599 trillion dollars of the rest of the problem...

The 1.2 trillion is real. The rest is primarily an uninformed generic rant against derivatives in general and thus constitutes a red herring in this case. Notice that the author hasn't even differentiated between the types of derivatives such as futures contracts, forward contracts, options and credit default swaps which shows that the article has been very poorly researched. I'm not saying that a lot of derivatives are necessarily good, but they're not what blew up in the world's face. The subprime mortgages did.

14 posted on 02/02/2009 1:21:20 AM PST by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: Post Toasties

If only it were 1.2 trillion dollars we would be out of this mess already and it wouldn’t be a global crisis.

Red herring? are you smoking crack? did a red herring bankrupt Iceland? Does a red herrig threaten to do the same to England?!

1.2 trillion doesn’t cause this level of problems in a global economy!!! Wake up! *sigh*

30 trillion is the first installment. the rest is coming soon.


15 posted on 02/02/2009 1:31:08 AM PST by Tempest (Greed is putting money before PEOPLE.)
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To: Post Toasties

You do understand that the sub-prime mortgae default rate is less than 20% don’t you???


17 posted on 02/02/2009 1:34:19 AM PST by Tempest (Greed is putting money before PEOPLE.)
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To: Post Toasties

” Notoriously lax and understaffed, the SEC did nothing to limit investment banks that bundled, pitched, and puffed non-prime mortgages as the raters cheered.”

I think the above line from the article, substantiates what you are saying. The sub-prime loans were the largest part of the problem. The author seems to want to gloss it over. It was still a quite informative article, fingering a large number of crooks in all administrations.


42 posted on 02/02/2009 3:01:06 AM PST by David Isaac
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To: Post Toasties; Tempest
The 1.2 trillion is real. The rest is primarily an uninformed generic rant against derivatives in general and thus constitutes a red herring in this case.

I agree. The real problem is a lack of transparency with the derivatives, and a non-functioning market that makes the underlying assets difficult to price. Once all the derivatives are netted out, the big scary numbers go away.

45 posted on 02/02/2009 3:07:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Post Toasties

>>The subprime mortgages did.

If you liked the crash of the Subprime wave, you’ll LOVE the Alt-A / Option-Arm implosion that’s currently in process.

These predatory debt instruments are merely a symptom.

The underlying disease is the systemic moral corruption of our entire system of governance, financial and otherwise.

When a Nation abandons God and His Law, bad things happen.


246 posted on 02/02/2009 8:53:52 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The Democrats blew up the windmill!)
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