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To: indylindy
Never let the facts get in the way of a good arguement.

According the Congressional Research Service analysis of the bill:

(p. 10) CHIPRA (Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act) 2009 would permit states to waive certain restrictions which result in a five-year delay for coverage of necessary health services in order to allow states to provide Medicaid or SCHIP coverage to pregnant women and children who are (1) lawfully residing in the United States, and (2) are otherwise eligible for such coverage. . . CHIPRA 2009 would prohibit federal funding for individuals who are not lawfully residing in the United States, and would provide for the disallowance of federal matching funds for erroneous expenditures made on behalf of such individuals under Medicaid and CHIP.

(p. 11) Citizenship Documentation

(The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 (DRA) requires citizens and nationals applying for Medicaid who claim to be citizens to provide both proof of citizenship and identity. . . . CHIPRA 2009 would provide a specific alternative, which would allow a state to use the Social Security Number (SSN) provided by individuals and verified by the Social Security Administration (SSA) . . (SSNs by themselves do not denote citizenship, because certain noncitizens are eligible for them.) The bill also would also add a requirement for citizenship documentation in SCHIP.

The age limit for adults is a state option, it is not required. Most states do not provide SCHIP funding for adults, but those that do must get a waiver from the federal government.

As far as the taxing of cigarettes, it is one of the few that I approve. Cancer deaths are a huge burden upon the health care system as well as the affected families.

And as far as La La Land, you are right, I live in California.

50 posted on 02/01/2009 2:03:26 PM PST by DeepThought42 (He who dares, wins.)
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To: DeepThought42

A troll is a troll is a troll.....you will also be paying for this.

Don’t fool yourself.


64 posted on 02/01/2009 2:24:09 PM PST by dforest (life is now good again....he has been inaugurated)
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To: DeepThought42

no, actually, the bill itself LESSENS the requirements:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR00002:@@@L&summ2=m&;

“(Sec. 211) Gives states the option, as an alternative to the current documentation requirement, to verify a declaration of U.S. citizenship or nationality for purposes of Medicaid or CHIP eligibility through verification of a name and Social Security number with the Commissioner of Social Security.”

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22DeepThought42%22&as_q=%22california%22

FACTS!!!


86 posted on 02/01/2009 3:39:55 PM PST by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: DeepThought42; indylindy
Yes, don't let the facts get in the way. You cited the House bill. The Senate bill includes:
The Senate overwhelmingly approved legislation yesterday to provide health insurance to 11 million low-income children, a bill that would for the first time spend federal money to cover children and pregnant women who are legal immigrants.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/29/AR2009012900325.html?hpid=topnews

99 posted on 02/01/2009 6:23:39 PM PST by callisto (Close your eyes and press escape three times. Do you want to play another game?)
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