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FDR Was a Great Leader, But His Economic Plan Isn't One to Follow
Washington Post ^ | February 1, 2009

Posted on 01/31/2009 10:08:34 PM PST by Steelfish

FDR Was a Great Leader, But His Economic Plan Isn't One to Follow

By Amity Shlaes Sunday, February 1, 2009

One evening in the 1930s, a 13-year-old named William Troeller hanged himself from the transom of his bedroom in Greenpoint, Brooklyn.

William's father was laid up in Kings County Hospital awaiting surgery for an injury he'd suffered on the job at Brooklyn Edison. A federal jobs program was paying William's older brother Harold for temporary work.

But the amount wasn't nearly enough to make ends meet. Gas and electricity to the family's apartment had been shut off for half a year.

Harold told a New York Times reporter that both hunger and modesty had driven William to act. "He was reluctant about asking for food," read the headline in the paper.

The surprising part of this story is not that it happened; most Americans know that after the 1929 stock-market crash, hard times sometimes led to suicide.

The surprising part is that William Troeller killed himself not in 1930, when Herbert Hoover was president, but in 1937, in Franklin D. Roosevelt's second term.

The New Deal was almost five years old, but the economy was not back. In fact, the country seemed farther from recovery than before.

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1 posted on 01/31/2009 10:08:34 PM PST by Steelfish
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This was in WaPo? Wow. Since I won’t grace their site with my presence, this is all I’ll get to read, but it says a lot about FDR the Infallible, doesn’t it?


2 posted on 01/31/2009 10:15:24 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

I think WaPo wants the The One to take heed since the MSM are joined at the hip with him and if he falls they crash as well.


3 posted on 01/31/2009 10:19:10 PM PST by Steelfish (Our Winning Video)
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To: Steelfish

Good point.


4 posted on 01/31/2009 10:19:57 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I wish it was 20 January 2013. I've had enough of this crap already.)
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To: Steelfish

Shaes book, The Forgotten Man, is a wonderful piece of scholarship about the depression. Read it and be afraid.


5 posted on 01/31/2009 10:23:29 PM PST by stop_fascism
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To: dcwusmc
but it says a lot about FDR the Infallible, doesn’t it?

Yes it does. Our most overrated president, thanks to Hitler and Tojo.

6 posted on 01/31/2009 10:29:23 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Steelfish

The only thing great he did was listen to Churchill re the European front and make good speeches. (words, words, words)


7 posted on 01/31/2009 10:37:56 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Steelfish

great book


8 posted on 01/31/2009 10:41:22 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Steelfish

My favorite incident she recalls is when FDR is in his bed at 10 o’clock in the morning trying to manipulate the price of gold.


9 posted on 01/31/2009 10:42:45 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Steelfish

Economic recovery is the last thing on Barack Hussein’s mind. The crisis (real and perceived) has presented a window of opportunity, and like FDR, he plans to exploit it to the fullest.


10 posted on 01/31/2009 10:49:44 PM PST by libh8er ( The govt is the true enemy of the people)
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To: Steelfish
FDR was an effete poof.
11 posted on 01/31/2009 11:00:22 PM PST by llevrok (Feral Conservative)
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didn’t O tell Charlie Gibson he planned to follow his ideas even if they hurt the economy???


12 posted on 01/31/2009 11:15:51 PM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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To: Steelfish

FDR was not a great leader, either. At least not if “great” means good and right for this country! Hitler was a “great” leader because he succeeded quite well. Of course, FDR was not even close to as evil as Hitler, but FDR was not a “great” leader as in a good one for America. He was as anti-American as any socialist of his era. He wanted to destroy everything that came before and remake it in the light of Marxist theory. So, yes, he succeeded at that. But that is NOT a “great” thing. It is horrible and has led to the decline of this country. I mark FDR as worse than Carter who was himself one of the worst presidents in history. Carter was merely a laughed at failure, but FDR actually succeeded at ruining this country. So, FDR may be “great” because his desire to ruin this country was a monumental success, but that does not make him a positive force in the USA. “Great” has to be quantified before we accept the term.


13 posted on 01/31/2009 11:20:13 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Steelfish

I remember P. J. O’Rourke telling a stunned Jay Leno that when the postage stamp came out his mother couldn’t decide which side to spit on.


14 posted on 01/31/2009 11:31:31 PM PST by SeeSharp
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I will do the same thing when Hussein’s stamp comes out (or is it out already?).


15 posted on 01/31/2009 11:35:26 PM PST by libh8er ( The govt is the true enemy of the people)
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To: Steelfish

Yes Libearls consider internment camps for US Citizens the sign of a great leader.


16 posted on 01/31/2009 11:46:54 PM PST by NoLibZone (Obama is 6% Black.50% White the rest Arab. He looks dark because he is 100% full of shit.)
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Just how does FDR get credit for turning around the economy with the “New Deal” when it took 10 years!

You could just as well credit sunspots for turning it around.


17 posted on 02/01/2009 12:15:29 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Close Gitmo now! Send them to Alcatraz!)
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To: Steelfish

I disagree.

FDR was not a great leader.
He was the architect of the Great Depression and the founder of the largest Ponzi Scheme the world has ever seen (Social Security).

Not only that, but he lost the most important battle of WWII thereby losing the war for the nations of Central Europe. America had won all the fighting, and the idiot handed Central and Eastern Europe to Stalin at Yalta, thereby subjecting millions to lives under Communism. He just gave away East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia, the Baltic States, Hungary to Commie butchers - and delivered the Russians weapons after the fighting was done.

The real winner of WWII was Stalin, and only thanks to the supreme idiocy of FDR. He dealt with Hitler to just divide up Poland, and got much more than he bargained for... he got half of Europe. This, only thanks to the idiot FDR - the biggest failure of a President America has ever seen.


18 posted on 02/01/2009 12:30:42 AM PST by Bon mots
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I couldn't believe it myself so I went to their site and read the whole thing. Damn. I still can't believe it. They might want to be careful or they are going to damage their reputation. They really do point out that FDR screwed up and ask Zero not to screw up. I am stll pinching myself. Will he do the right thing? So far he makes no attempt and in fact is still pushing this godawful Porkulus POS. Μολὼν λάβε
19 posted on 02/01/2009 3:04:29 AM PST by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)")
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I just wish the article could have been from one of the regular writers at WaPo. Never-the-less, page B-01 coverage is pretty good.


20 posted on 02/01/2009 3:46:24 AM PST by fso301
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