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To: eaglerock814

> In Virginia, HSUS and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals were strongly in support of Senate Bill 1151, which would have mandated the spaying or neutering of any dog taken to an animal shelter for a second time.

As a responsible dog owner, I would be in full support of such a measure. Unless you are a proper breeder with proper breeding facilities, your dogs should be spayed/neutered as a matter of course.

Much ado about nothing.


6 posted on 01/30/2009 2:20:27 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I’m a responsible dog owner. My Border Collie won’t neutered until he is one, and maybe not then. Neutering a male changes when the bone growth plates stop growing at 8-10 months. Neutering before then may contribute to hip problems.

Also, some males become more timid after neutering. I’ve owned unneutered males who were never bred.


10 posted on 01/30/2009 2:38:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers (And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way - Reagan)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

>>Unless you are a proper breeder with proper breeding facilities, your dogs should be spayed/neutered as a matter of course.<<

I agree. However, what the background of this crap is all about is to eliminate small breeders. Suzy up the street who gets a teacup poodle and breeds it to make up some cash.

What would be a better idea is to spay/neuter any animal without papers or license. My Minnie is an AKC Papillon. She is spayed because we thought about a litter but wanted her to remain a puppy in our eyes. When she got to be full grown, we realized that although she held AKC papers, there was NO way she was a purebreed. She is bigger, and has the personality and long nose of a terrier. Understanding that her Sire is registered as a drawer number, we know now that there was a sperm mix up. Better not to breed her and make any more for a bit of cash.


14 posted on 01/30/2009 2:43:41 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
As a responsible dog owner, I would be in full support of such a measure. Unless you are a proper breeder with proper breeding facilities, your dogs should be spayed/neutered as a matter of course. Much ado about nothing

I agree. It's not as if the bill is going to allow the Humane Society into people's homes to confiscate dogs. If a dog arrives at a shelter for a SECOND time, then something is wrong. I have a male weim and also a female golden/husky mix that we adopted from the Humane Society shelter. She was spayed very young, before we adopted her at ten weeks. That seemed very young to me. We waited a year to neuter the male weim for some reasons already stated in this thread.

20 posted on 01/30/2009 2:59:06 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“As a responsible dog owner, I would be in full support of such a measure. Unless you are a proper breeder with proper breeding facilities, your dogs should be spayed/neutered as a matter of course.”

They already spay/neuter at out local shelter and at the Pet Smart. I think it’s a good thing myself. Colorado is generally a pretty good state for pets as opposed to where I was raised.


24 posted on 01/30/2009 3:30:53 PM PST by dljordan
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Oh, are you ever naive!

As a former breeder & exhibitor, I have to say that on the surface this is reasonable. Yes, most of the dogs we sold had enforcible neuter agreements written into the contracts, the exceptions being to other known breeders and involving show/breeding quality animals.

That said, I have known, and known of other, breeders who had valuable animals stolen and then later ended up in shelters. Pre-chipping, it was devasting to some breeding programs.

The way this would work is that the animals are 'released' by the activist scum, then get picked up. Second time, mandatory spay/neuter.

34 posted on 01/30/2009 4:30:54 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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