Posted on 01/30/2009 2:06:45 PM PST by eaglerock814
Please pardon my ignorance. What is HSUS?
Humane Society of the United States
“Animal rights group kidnappings are becoming more common, and their goal is to take dogs to distant animal shelters were they will be euthanized.”
So - Animal Rights is actually about the animal’s right to be euthanized?
Can someone explain this?
“.......reflects the HSUS agenda of working toward the complete elimination of domestic animal ownership in America.”
Elimination of domestic animal ownership??? Is that really what their goal is?
> In Virginia, HSUS and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals were strongly in support of Senate Bill 1151, which would have mandated the spaying or neutering of any dog taken to an animal shelter for a second time.
As a responsible dog owner, I would be in full support of such a measure. Unless you are a proper breeder with proper breeding facilities, your dogs should be spayed/neutered as a matter of course.
Much ado about nothing.
So, should I be worried that a member of our family (he happens to be a schnauzer) will be made off with in the night? That is, assuming he doesn't tear out the throat of the moron trying to do it.
What's the point in this?
Anybody tries to dognap my pup, they can expect a hail of lead...very quick!!!
I’m a responsible dog owner. My Border Collie won’t neutered until he is one, and maybe not then. Neutering a male changes when the bone growth plates stop growing at 8-10 months. Neutering before then may contribute to hip problems.
Also, some males become more timid after neutering. I’ve owned unneutered males who were never bred.
We had a situation here (WI) a few years ago where a Peta-like organization dognapped a German Shorthair (I think that was the breed) right out of his fenced yeard because it was snowing. As I remember the dog also had access to shelter.
Anyhow, these jerks dognapped the dog, had it neutered and sold it out of state “for its safety”. The dog died of complications from the surgery.
The owners testified that the dog had not been out long and that he enjoyed the snow. (I know mine does.)
I don’t know whether it’s pertinent, but the woman behind this bizarre incident had been the state chair for the Ross Perot campaign in 1992.
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Owners 62 years and older.
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$10 within 30 days after Due Date
$20 over 30 days after Due Date
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>>Unless you are a proper breeder with proper breeding facilities, your dogs should be spayed/neutered as a matter of course.<<
I agree. However, what the background of this crap is all about is to eliminate small breeders. Suzy up the street who gets a teacup poodle and breeds it to make up some cash.
What would be a better idea is to spay/neuter any animal without papers or license. My Minnie is an AKC Papillon. She is spayed because we thought about a litter but wanted her to remain a puppy in our eyes. When she got to be full grown, we realized that although she held AKC papers, there was NO way she was a purebreed. She is bigger, and has the personality and long nose of a terrier. Understanding that her Sire is registered as a drawer number, we know now that there was a sperm mix up. Better not to breed her and make any more for a bit of cash.
But I am more in favor of our rights not being stepped on or taken away. I have three precious little dogs that are members of our family and there had better not ever be a law that outlaws me having them!!!
> I’m a responsible dog owner. My Border Collie won’t neutered until he is one, and maybe not then. Neutering a male changes when the bone growth plates stop growing at 8-10 months. Neutering before then may contribute to hip problems.
My German Shepherds neuter on a similar schedule and basis, for similar reasons.
> Also, some males become more timid after neutering. I’ve owned unneutered males who were never bred.
For a Border Collie I wouldn’t have thought you’d want a particularly aggressive dog: they’re smart enough to get into plenty of mischief as it is. They’re lovely dogs and would be my personal favorites after German Shepherds. Never yet owned a Border Collie, maybe one day.
And these nutbags call us crazy?! I notice Missouri was not on the list (so far), but we do have a lot of animal rights activists in the state. I was not aware this sort of thing was happening. My neighbors have german shephards, boxers, and rottweilers (sp); I’ll have to let them know.
Well, that sort of thing is why I have the Remington 870 and a few boxes of slugs.
German short haired pointer, probably. Beautiful dogs, but they do have very short hair. It sounds as if some reactionary types saw that dog out in the snow and thought it was animal abuse...unless the owners actually were neglecting the dog. German short haired pointers, vizslas, and weimaraners are related dogs that do fine running like mad in the snow, but if they’re left outside at subzero temps for extended periods, the result is not good.
I don’t even buy the city tag “required” to own a dog where I live, and it’s only $2/yr. I do, of course, keep up her rabies and other shots.
I agree. It's not as if the bill is going to allow the Humane Society into people's homes to confiscate dogs. If a dog arrives at a shelter for a SECOND time, then something is wrong. I have a male weim and also a female golden/husky mix that we adopted from the Humane Society shelter. She was spayed very young, before we adopted her at ten weeks. That seemed very young to me. We waited a year to neuter the male weim for some reasons already stated in this thread.
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