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James Q. Wilson: The DNA of Politics - Genes shape our beliefs, our values, and even our votes.
City Journal ^ | Winter 2009 | James Q. Wilson

Posted on 01/30/2009 1:31:37 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 01/30/2009 1:31:37 PM PST by neverdem
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“Right now, we don’t know. To discover the links will require lengthy studies of the DNA of people with different political views. Scientists are having a hard time locating the specific genes that cause diseases; it will probably be much harder to find the complex array of genes that affects politics.”

...which, of course, will require government grant money so I can keep from getting a real job as long as humanly possible.

I call Bravo Sierra on the entire notion. Maybe just ‘cause it’s Friday.

Colonel, USAFR


2 posted on 01/30/2009 1:34:03 PM PST by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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Check "James Q. Wilson" crime.

The author has done quite a bit.

3 posted on 01/30/2009 1:39:24 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Perhaps more disturbing is the notion that they would like to catalog DNA and correlate that data with political affiliation.

Does anyone else feel uneasy with this government cataloging DNA?

4 posted on 01/30/2009 1:40:52 PM PST by JOAT
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I think you’re probably right about the BS of it all. My husband and I are both extremely conservative, but our son is 43 and still a Democrat. I think he may have to get a belly full of the Obamassiah to come to the same conclusion we did as a result of living through the Carter malaise (nothing like that to put a stop to voting Democrat).


5 posted on 01/30/2009 1:41:04 PM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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Give me the money for the research.

I’ll show them that anyone that’s a lib after 30 probably hasn’t taken on any other adult duties in his or her life.


6 posted on 01/30/2009 1:42:03 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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No, lemme guess. They found that the more intelligent voters tend to vote Liberal and that degenerate trailer trash scum vote for Conservative values...because...they just don't understand.

More claptrap from academia. They may be less knowledgeable; less informed, but they're more intelligent because...for it to be otherwise would be unthinkable.:-D meh
7 posted on 01/30/2009 1:42:27 PM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: Twinkie

ooops... you’re probably going to take offense at what I just posted.

Sorry about your son, by the way... :)


8 posted on 01/30/2009 1:42:55 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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Perhaps more disturbing is the notion that they would like to catalog DNA and correlate that data with political affiliation.

Stalinist pseudo-science. More like Stalinism on steroids.


9 posted on 01/30/2009 1:46:32 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder.)
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To: neverdem

This is an excellent article. I think it explains the balance very well. People do have natural inclinations and reactions.


10 posted on 01/30/2009 2:00:15 PM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: Twinkie

“I think you’re probably right about the BS of it all. My husband and I are both extremely conservative, but our son is 43 and still a Democrat. I think he may have to get a belly full of the Obamassiah to come to the same conclusion we did as a result of living through the Carter malaise (nothing like that to put a stop to voting Democrat).”

What about your parents? There is very often a disconnect between generations. That doesn’t mean that its not inherited.


11 posted on 01/30/2009 2:02:06 PM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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If you have a 40-20-40 situation there's no “complex array” of genes ~ just a couple of genes ~ maybe just a different allele count.
12 posted on 01/30/2009 2:05:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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Oh. My parents were Roosevelt Democrats, except that my Daddy voted for Reagan, I think both times he ran. He was in the war and felt a great deal of love for Roosevelt. My Momma blamed the Depression on Hoover, loved Roosevelt. Always called white gravy Hoover Soup.


13 posted on 01/30/2009 2:08:20 PM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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I call Bravo Sierra on the entire notion.

He's not calling for more study. He is saying the evidence from studies supports his belief.

Two things he didn't point out is that the left adamantly supports evolution without Divine intervention. Genetic selection is a requirement to pass on traits. Yet they can't accept the notion that behavior is in part due to the nature of the individual. To them differences are formed purely by nurture which is the opposite to evolution.

The religious right won't accept evolution which pretty much means nature is meaningless. There is no need to determine any cause and effect with traits. It's purely a spiritual notion, nurture. To them for the last 6,000 years we bear original sin no matter how we behave or to any lineage we belong.

I'm inclined to believe nature and nurture both form the basis of our behavior. I read this is what he believes. I suppose if you are inclined to cite this as BS then you fall in the category of the loony left or crazed creationist.

14 posted on 01/30/2009 2:11:55 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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Obviously your son got the recessive set of genes from both parents


15 posted on 01/30/2009 2:30:50 PM PST by the long march
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To: jagusafr

Hey, I was a liberal prior to Jimmy Carter, now a conservative. Did I change my genes?


16 posted on 01/30/2009 2:52:35 PM PST by expatpat
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To: neverdem

If this is true, then the GOP should drop all opposition to abortion and start offering to gleefully drive Democratic women to family planning clinics, free of charge.


17 posted on 01/30/2009 4:29:54 PM PST by NVDave
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I have seen nurture beat nature. Friend of mine has a mother who was a major stoner, which resulted in a lot of my friend’s health problems. She went on to get a PhD in microbiology, is now teaching, has significant papers being referenced globally. All this in spite of stoner mommy.


18 posted on 01/30/2009 4:58:25 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder.)
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On the other hand, the answers these people gave to the words “Democrat” or “Republican” had a very weak genetic basis. In politics, genes help us understand fundamental attitudes—that is, whether we are liberal or conservative—but do not explain what party we choose to join.

Right James, whatever you say. The correlation sucks so you discount it. Good science!

19 posted on 01/30/2009 5:03:16 PM PST by jwalsh07
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Right James, whatever you say. The correlation sucks so you discount it. Good science!

I guess you missed the point. George Bush claimed to be a conservative. Yet he increased public spending. He claimed to stand up for Americans. Yet he let the border be overrun with cheap labor migrants. What you tell me he fought against Terrorism killing the enemy. Big deal. Truman dropped two atomic bombs and killed lots of the enemy. Political parties are an expediency to money and power. They are not a measure of values. That's what the evidence says. That's what Wilson claims.

20 posted on 01/30/2009 6:35:03 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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